Brian, I really like the DNZ rig you are recommending. If they offered an option with two-bolts on each side of the ring - I'd be all over this product! Its rigidity would be perfect. It seems 2 or 3 bolts would help prevent the rig from coming loose - especially on aluminum rings that can't be torqued quite as much as the steel rings can be. It seems this might be the weakest link in my setup. Am I incorrect?
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Question on rifle scope mounting: Steel or aluminum base/rings?
- Thread starter ezmiraldo
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Brian Pfleuger
Moderator Emeritus
If they offered an option with two-bolts on each side of the ring - I'd be all over this product!
They do. Look for the "Tactical" version.
They can't be torqued "as much" but "as much" will crush the scope with aluminium or steel anyway.
You don't want "as much torque", you want about 15 in-lbs, certainly no more than 25.
DNZ calls for 25, IIRC. Minox Optics says any more than 15 is unnecessary and will void your warranty.
Brian Pfleuger
Moderator Emeritus
I've only checked two sets, they did not need lapping.
@Brian P and others:
15 inch pounds sounds like a good number for the ring screws.
What do you recommend for the torque on the base screws? I've seen 30 in-lbs recommended for the base screws but that seemed high and I usually stop before that. What are the opinions on a good torque value for the bases?
15 inch pounds sounds like a good number for the ring screws.
What do you recommend for the torque on the base screws? I've seen 30 in-lbs recommended for the base screws but that seemed high and I usually stop before that. What are the opinions on a good torque value for the bases?
Brian Pfleuger
Moderator Emeritus
I torque bases to 25 in-lbs and use blue Loctite. (No Loctite on rings)
I always torque in steps. 10, 15, 20, 25
I always torque in steps. 10, 15, 20, 25
waveslayer
New member
Get some LaRue or Nightforce mounts
Brian Pfleuger
Moderator Emeritus
I prefer steel because steel is blued and paint will eventually start to flake on aluminum. I mostly use Redfield mounts and rings.
The good aluminum bases/rings are anodized. It's much more rugged than bluing. And don't forget... Almost all scopes are anodized aluminum.
swmike says he uses a rail base to stiffen his Remington action.
Mike, your barrel's a lot more flimsy than that action without the rail base, what about it's lack of stiffness?
The NBRSA world record for 5, 10-shot groups at 300-yds is 0.266 MOA; .798 inch average of 5 groups. Some groups were larger. You've got quite a sub 1/4 MOA rifle that consistantly shoots better than that one did; once.
Mike, your barrel's a lot more flimsy than that action without the rail base, what about it's lack of stiffness?
The NBRSA world record for 5, 10-shot groups at 300-yds is 0.266 MOA; .798 inch average of 5 groups. Some groups were larger. You've got quite a sub 1/4 MOA rifle that consistantly shoots better than that one did; once.
Ive used both types in the past but my confidence level is always higher with STEEL.
And Im not going to rant about this or that or which ones actually best, and by the drivil I read in the first 5 or so replies, I think Im much better to not rant at this point.
First off a TORX wrench isnt 50.00, you can buy an entire set at harbor freight for 3.99.
A quality TORQUE wrench however will cost at least 60.00, I said quality...
I use the "Fat Wrench" from Wheeler, it came with the Scope mounting kit they sell for less than 100.00, and I use it regularly.
Back yo Steel verses Aluminiun, Ones lighter, and the other one is stronger.......
And Im not going to rant about this or that or which ones actually best, and by the drivil I read in the first 5 or so replies, I think Im much better to not rant at this point.
First off a TORX wrench isnt 50.00, you can buy an entire set at harbor freight for 3.99.
A quality TORQUE wrench however will cost at least 60.00, I said quality...
I use the "Fat Wrench" from Wheeler, it came with the Scope mounting kit they sell for less than 100.00, and I use it regularly.
Back yo Steel verses Aluminiun, Ones lighter, and the other one is stronger.......