Question for hogs-with-dogs hunters

Scorch- I used a guide in King City that bred Airdales with Pitbulls to hunt pigs. He had 30 dogs over a 22 year career killed by hogs.

I'll tell ya though, there aren't too many things more exciting than being in the back of a pickup going 50 or 60 with a couple of other hunters and 4 or 5 dogs all fired up because they can smell hogs...
 
I have seen a half-dozen dogs killed in the last few years, and know some other dogs that didn't make it home although, fortunately, I wasn't on the hunt when it happened. Your own experience may differ. I wouldn't dismiss your opinion, as it is based on your experiences. However, based on my experiences, I don't see how your post could be true. I'm not calling you a liar. Rather, I am pointing out that our opinions are influenced by our experiences, and they're all different.

Based on what I've seen, I wouldn't let one of my Jack Russells hunt hogs. However, I do occasionally turn them loose on wounded hogs (in contrast to my earlier policy of not letting my dogs chase hogs at all) and they seem to perform quite well. Still, I couldn't bear to sew one up or, God forbid, bury one, for the sake of entertainment. I leave the hog hunting to the real hog dogs.
 
FWB-
I knew several guides in the King City/Paso Robles/Hollister area that used pit bulls exclusively. Got them from the pound and trained them themselves. One had lost dozens of dogs over the years. Pit bulls are not afraid of anything, so they are not very cautious, just run right in. i also knew a guy who was breeding pit bulls with Rottweilers. Looked like a giant pit bull. Good dogs, too.

You can use a bird dog to hunt pigs, but bird dogs have been bred to point, which is a withheld lunge. Lots of bird dogs will scent them out, but few will latch on. But Weimaraners were bred in Germany to be a gamekeeper's dog, track and take on anything from boar to stag. I have no doubt bird dogs could take on a pig, but I don't want to take needle and thread to my $1000 bird dogs.
 
Scorch- The guy I used was Nessen Scmidt but that was years ago. I usually go to a guy in Paso Robles, now.

There was a butcher in King City that made the best Wild Boar Sausages I have ever eaten in my life...
 
I have heard of all sorts of dogs baying hogs. Alot of dogs will get in there and bay, but it takes a really gritty dog to go in and grab the pig so you can tie it up or cuff it. I have heard of labs and pointers baying like crazy, and I have even seen beagles bay a hog.

Sounds like you just need a good bay dog. Have you considered the Black Mouth Cur? A man in mississippii named LH Ladner raises some fine ones, and I have been in the woods with a young male that came from his kennels. The bmc's are very loyal and make good pets. The particular ladner cur that I know is very gritty and a very nice pet as well. They are very gentle with children and I have heard of them killign snakes to protect a child.

Check out the Ladner website
http://www2.netdoor.com/~lhladner/
 
Nessen Schmidt? I used to run around with a guy from Paicines named Jef Schmidt. Wonder if they're related? Jef was part of a pretty good-sized family from down around those parts.
 
I went Boar hunting over in Thailand when I was in the army back in the '70's. I went with a local village chief who brought his best pig dog along. It looked like a mangy, malnourished Chihuahua but that little booger could track hogs. The chief shot a 200KG boar with a homemade, black powder muzzle loader. Bigtime feast!!
 
Hog hunting facts

I've bayed up hundreds of hogs with lots of different dogs. You can use one good baydog and one good catchdog or you can use one or two dogs that will just find the hog and catch it, like a catahoula bulldog or pittbull cross. Just about every cross has been tried and some dogs from about every cross will bay a hog. If you use cut collars and vests and get to the dogs quick you won't have dead dogs. Cuts are cuts, they will heal up. Most people that get their dogs killed don't use cut collars and cut vests. The cut collars and cut vests cover most of the vital places a hog will try to cut. Pointers are excellent bay dogs and some are straight catch dogs. A buddy of mine has a beagle that is one of the best little hog dogs you'll ever see. Any of the cur, hound or birddog breeds will do it. Another great website to checkout is boardogs.com. Larry parker has some great hog dogs at parkercurdogs.com. I've used jagdterriers and their ok too. Hog hunting is a great sport and on the rise, but we have to be smart and keep our dogs safe by using cut collars and vests. Their is no such thing as a hog dog. The birddog breeders hate the fact that I use a german shorthair but if you look at their history they were bred to be versatile,and the same goes for all the pointer breeds. Bulldogs are great as catchdogs but don't really have the nose most of the time to be a top strike/find dog. Nothing bothers me more than seeing people post ads when they have never done it and are going on heresay. Most hog hunters if you ask them if dogs die while hog hunting will say yes, but if you ask them if they've ever seen it they'll say," no, but I know a buddy that did." And if you dig further you'll find out that about 90% of the time those few dogs that died weren't wearing a cut collar and cut vest. Sometimes hog hunters don't use tracking systems and when the dog doesn't come right back they'll say oh, he probably was killed by a hog or gator. The truth is he's probably lost and on his way to the pound. IF you've never seen it or done it just say so, so the general public is not mislead about this sport.
 
I personally know of well over a dozen dead dogs this year. Many were bulldogs while plenty were curr dogs. Once permission has been granted I will post of a recent (this past friday) loss of a great curr dog that was stuck right thru a near new top of the line cut vest. While others were killed when the tusk missed the cut collar by less than 1/4th of an inch... Not all hog dogs die by hogs but many do! I know of very few dogs "lost" most are found that night or the next day. I know of only one that died lost and a couple in the pound but were wearing the required ID collars with owner name and numbers. I also know of too many hunters that have tracked the radio signal each day until they caught the gator and cut their collar out of the belly. And some other dogs pass while caught in a river and just drown.
Brent
 
Nice to see someone else hunting the Jagdterrier on here!!! Great dogs but , like most terriers, they can be a little pigheaded and too smart for their own good.

Try this site: http://jagineb.proboards104.com/index.cgi

I'm not sure, but if I recall correctly you have to sign up to view. These are the hardcore Jagdterrier man and some of the members are the original guys from over in europe. BTW, ask them what they think of Knitehunt kennals.


IF I were looking for a hog dog my short list would be the jagdterrier, the blackmouth cur and the Catahoula dogs.

Don't limit your choices to the bird dogs. Do some research and you will find out how great and vercitile these dogs can be.

CB
 
Having a little bird dog bred into a program is popular...
Jagds are too dern high strung for my tastes...
What folks fail to realize that make the dogs kilkenny lists is "GRIT"...
About any dog can find and bay a pig. But a hog is a far different beast. The dog has to take some abuse and not quit the bay. Some dogs bay like a monster and get hit once and head for the truck box. It takes a special dog to STOP and bay any size hog no matter what.
Unfortunately I am currently dog poor as I sold my good stuff when I was down from the wreck that trashed my arm. Now finding new blood at bargain basement $$$ is tuff!
Brent
 
Hog hunting with Weimaraners

I see most of you are saying a Weimaraner is a bird dog. As a breeder and hog hunter of Weims, I just had to step in here. They were originally bred in Germany as a large game hunting dogs. Bred and used for Bear and hogs mostly by royalty. Only reason they were started being used as a bird dog is the fact that the large game was depleting. We use our Weimaraner's as hog dogs. They are also closely related to a Plott hound. A Weim has grit, hunt, stamina, and versatility. They do range a little further, more like a hound dog than a cur. We have bullX, blackmouths, Catahoulas Plotts, and the Weims. The Weims have proved themselves to have the grit needed to help stop a hog, and the nose to find one. However, do take into consideration that they are pricier if you are hunting them, and there is always a chance of them getting injured. There are also many in rescues as these dogs need jobs and do better as a pet with a job.
 
Weim, Where do you find your weims? Is there lines of true hunting stock in the USA or are you getting lucky with pet and show lines?

Brent
 
I had a weim/chocholate lab mix for 14 years, she was the smartest greatest dog I have ever known. I have other dogs but this one I have never found one on par with this dog since she died. And to think she was an unwanted pup because the mix was not intended.
 
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