Question about cocked and locked

Do remember that if you have a sear failure on a non series 80 1911, the hammer notches and half cock notches are irrelevant. The hammer will fall and the gun will fire. Discussions on the 1911 forum have mentioned instances of sear failure.
 
How long does a gun fight take from start to finish?

a) 2 minutes

b) 1 minute

c) 2.5 seconds

d) a heart beat

IMHO, if I have to draw my weapon and rack the slide there is a very good chance my wife, kid or myself will be injured or killed. If you're not secure with a 1911 cocked and locked look at a 7.45 LDA Para-Ord. Personally I feel more safe with my 1911s cocked and locked than with my Glocks with one in the pipe.

My number one rule is don't toutch the trigger til I want the weapon to go bang.
 
Kimber Manual

I always carry my Kimber Ultra Carry cocked and locked in a IWB. It has never bothered me to do so...

But,

I went through my Kimber Operational Manual the other day. On page 5, under the 'Warning' heading, was the following:

"Always store and carry this product empty, with the hammer forward on an emptied chamber. Failure to do so could result in an unintentional discharge."

Sheez...They call it a "Carry" gun, too...


Here's a possible scenario if their warning was adhered to...

"Uh, excuse me, bad guy, timeout! Please wait until I rack my gun. My owners' manual said to leave the chamber empty, and I always follow directions.

Please be fair. Don't shoot first. I'm at a slight disadvantage, here!"

straightShot
 
Well I certainly feel like I've been thrown to the wolves!
I should have said "rarely" instead of "never" do I carry "cocked and locked". Concealed carry can be a challenge sometimes here in the sweaty South, so my preferred method is a Bianchi butt-pack. With its tight opening and my fat hand, drawing the Kimber cocked and locked does make me a little nervous. My P7, with one in the pipe, is the way I go.
However, if I was able to conceal a shoulder rig or hip holster a little easier, I have no problem with condition one.
Also, if I HAD to, I'd rack the slide with my (insert really bad word) TEETH!
 
My personal choice is all my 1911's are 80 series. I carry cocked and locked and the 80 series is why. I have never had a problem with the 80 series guns. :cool:
 
“Always store and carry this product empty, with the hammer forward on an emptied chamber. Failure to do so could result in an unintentional discharge.”
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Of course it could result in an accidental discharge. Without a round in the chamber, there can’t be an AD, but there also can’t be an intentional one either. :p

~Glorf
 
This is what happens when some one gets to reading Mas Ay(b)oob's recycled war stories. He calls them cases, without citing the actual case law. Why would he do that? It may be that if we looked up the "Case against using handloaded ammo" we would find that it wasn't the ammo that got the shooter in trouble, but the fact that the shooter lied to the police first about what happened and then the ammo the shooter was using was questioned. How can a man that spends as much time in court as he says he does, not have the relevent case law available? It isn't about privacy because case law is a matter of public record. Now I'm not saying that the man is making stuff up, only that I think he leaves out important details that shoot holes in his stories.
 
Blades, no. Reported case law comes from the state court of appeals and higher. Trial courts and administrative hearings don't make it. Internal agency investigations do not make it either.

I do not want the invesigators I hire to run their mouths about my clients' cases (unless the clients consent of course). To my knowledge, Ayoob has always maintained that handloaded ammo is a factor and not a threshold test of criminal or civil litigation. LFI-I should be taught in high school.
 
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