Question about Choosing First Handgun

I seldom look at Sig guns, but I know they are well made overall. My post is going to wander around a bit, but I generally feel you are better off with a larger home defense gun and a smaller concealed carry gun. Liking them and shooting them reasonably well is a given.

First gun.... for home defense primarily, but might want to carry later....?

My sister was looking for essentially the same gun (revolver vs semi-auto). She lives in MD. She ended up buying a Taurus snubbie in 38spl because of the simplicity of operation. I suggested she mostly look at S&W if she was looking at revolvers. But she liked the feel of that Taurus revolver in her hand and it was available to purchase, so she did. There were NO S&W at the gunshops she visited; all sold. I just hope it functions well and it is not a lemon like so many Taurus revolvers are.

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CT has a magazine capacity law at 10 rounds I believe. So, the utility of getting a Glock 19 (middle size 9mm) is reduced somewhat. However, Glocks are so easy to shoot, are generally accurate after you get comfortable with them, and easy to take apart for cleaning and whatever other reason you might have. I would look hard at the Glock 19 and see how it feels in your hand. My mid-size Glock is the M23 (40 S&W) which I believe is an excellent choice for your initial needs. I keep mine loaded mostly at home, because I carry a small light S&W 38spl revolver for personal self defense outside the home when I carry.

The Glock 19 or 23 is harder to conceal than a smaller semi-auto, but you are more likely to be able to shoot it more accurately over a smaller pistol. Size matters....

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40 S&W vs 9mm.... many experts believe that the added firepower of the 40 S&W does not justify the choice over a 9mm Glock because of the extra magazine capacity and slightly lighter recoil (hence control). I think I agree IF you can utilize the 10+ round magazines.

First, I would look mostly at 9mm or 40 S&W semi-auto pistols and skip 380 ACP entirely unless it is for your concealed carry gun. I do like the Glock 19 and 23. But, I really like the Ruger LC9, SR9C and SR40C models. The LC9 is pretty easy to pocket carry and you have added power and generally better ammunition choices (and availability under normal times) over the 380 ACP.

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Revolver? Many really like the Ruger SP-101. I find them a bit heavy for regular concealed carry. Great gun however and you can learn to shoot it sufficiently well in 38spl, a caliber that is perfectly suited for someone who is likely to never have to use a firearm in self defense in their lifetime.

If I were buying a home defense revolver, it would in all probablity be a Ruger GP-100 in a 3" or 4" barrel length (or the SP-101 in 3"). You get an extra round over the SP-101 (6 vs 5 shots). They balance nicely and you can learn to shoot one in 38spl pretty easily. You would probably have a bit more trouble with 357's, but that is obtainable too. Don't overlook the S&W revolvers. The 686 is excellent! The Model 60 (small J-frame steel revolver) is very good but harder to shoot in 357 mag mostly due to its small grips.

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I generally feel that your house gun should be purchased as a gun you can reliably shoot well and the concealed carry gun be purchased as a gun you don't shoot as often but due to its smaller size, it is there when you need it.

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Only you can anwer that question about two versus one gun. Yes, you are spending more money. But I would deal with the first issue first and that is home defense to be employed in addition to the shotgun.

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For new shooters, I almost always recommend a 22 handgun to learn to shoot with wether it be a semi-auto or revolver. Ammunition availability is good (except for the recent shortage) and practice is cheap. You would not be totally de-fanged just using the 22 for home defense if you are a reasonably capable shooter.

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I like the Ruger 10/22 rifle for home defense too by the way. They are very reliable quick pointing guns and reloads are pretty quick even with the 10-round Ruger magazines. They are also a lot of fun to shoot. But they are not the most accurate of 22 rifles available out of the box; but suitable accuracy for most shooters.
 
I'm a wheelgun guy. I keep a 4" Colt .357 next to the bed at night, and when I'm out fishing, hiking and hunting I'm usually carrying a revolver of some sort. I've been shooting revolvers pretty much all my life, and if I had to choose only one handgun it would be a revolver. I do keep a couple of small bottom feeders around because they conceal well.

In your case the Sig 232 seems to make more sense. You are comfortable with it, you shoot it well and it fits your general requirements. Can't really ask for more than that. My brother owned a P230 and it was a very nice shooting pistol, along with being quite accurate. Snubby .357's are not particularly noted for being comfortable to shoot.

In the end, you are the one who has to live with your choice. My advice (free to you and worth every penny!) is to buy the model you are more comfortable with. After all, you can always pick up another one later. ;)
 
My opinion is that if this is going to be your first gun, and you've narrowed it down to two guns that you perceive both of to have drawbacks, then maybe you should continue your search until you find a gun that is both effective AND you can shoot it well?

But you are wanting help deciding between two bad choices, and want to know the best choice for you? Ok, here it is. Get the .380. It what you want. The chances of you needing it in your lifetime are so small that I will refund triple the money you paid for this advice if you do and find that it's not enough gun for you.
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Not with the current scarcity of .22LR, he shouldn't! :D

To the OP, did you try .38 Specials out of the SP, or only .357 Magnums? Because there is a world of difference in controllability, and therefore accuracy, between those two rounds. And I believe, although someone else will have to confirm or correct me on this, that the .38 is still more powerful than a .380 Auto.

Ivan
 
Key Point Here

Waspinator said:
Oh, I did forget to mention the use.

I'm looking for something to keep next to the bed at night in something like a gunvault (have kids). The shot gun, all the way in the closet, inside the safe, just seams to far away for grabbing something quick. I would feel more comfortable with something I could deploy fast while the wife rounds up the kids and grabs the shotgun. I also want the gun to be on the smaller size so that I can carry (most likely IWB holster).

And there, friends, we have the key detail that changes this dynamic. The OP has a shotgunlocked up already, and is looking for a gun to back up that weapon while the Mrs gets the shotgun and kids.

I love a good wheelgun as much as the next person, but if this is going to be a CC gun, and a BUG to the shotgun in a HD situation, of the two you listed, I would go with the Sig.

Now, IMHO, I would look for something in a larger caliber without upping the size. For what you describe, and some will bad mouth me for this, I would suggest either a CZ-75B (easier to conceal than you think for a full size 9mm/9x19) or a Makarov (9x18). Both are SA/DA all steel guns, whose round packs more of a punch than the .380/9x17. Both offer the heft of the heavier gun to alleviate recoil. The Makarov is an 8rd capacity (vs your Sig's of 7) or even 12 if you find one of the ellusive double stack Makarovs. The CZ-75 in 9mm holds 16 rounds.

To get much smaller in the higher calibers, you're looking at tupperware, which you have expressed a desire to avoid. May your first gun not be last one, and I hope you find the gun of your dreams, over and over again.
 
JC57 Wrote:
My opinion is that if this is going to be your first gun, and you've narrowed it down to two guns that you perceive both of to have drawbacks, then maybe you should continue your search until you find a gun that is both effective AND you can shoot it well?

They both have drawbacks, but they are both also nice... Like buying a house, nothing is going to match my needs/wants perfectly. I always find something that is considered a drawback, its my nature I guess (I'm in the micro-machining field, so I notice a lot of stuff when looking at things, lol).

By all means, I plan on continuing the search. Perhaps I will end up choosing one of the two I mentioned, or perhaps I will find something that I like even more that wasn't even on the radar.

I guess I should have started this thread without any mention of models or calibers and just asked the question, "would you buy the gun you shoot better, or the gun that you want to shoot better?"
 
To me, the key points in an HD gun are all in one....as in the gun must be a complete package. When I get it, there will be near 0 suit up time.

Also, it will be box safe, not necessarily all day holster safe.

Last, it needs to be able to sit loaded for several months without worry of spring set, whatever.

I think an XD/Glock in 40/45 with night sights and a light on it are great.

Neither choice you mentioned is a great fit due to ammo capacity or stopping power. If I only had those 2, it would be the SP101 with 357's in it, but I shoot that well.

So, I'm thinking a Glock 17 would be a logical buy for you...
 
Nothing wrong with a snubby, or P232, but I'd look for a semi-compact 9MM that is easy to shoot well, and can act as a range and home defense gun. These include:

CZ-75D PCR
CZ P-01
Browning Hi Power
Sig P228/P229
Beretta 92FS Compact L
CZ P-07
Glock G19
Springfield XDm
HK P30
HK USPc
 
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