Pump action - Which one you prefer?

Which one would you prefer for 3-gun shooting and why?

  • Winchester 1300 Defender

    Votes: 17 21.0%
  • Mossberg 590 (8+1)

    Votes: 18 22.2%
  • Remington 870

    Votes: 38 46.9%
  • Other

    Votes: 8 9.9%

  • Total voters
    81
Romulus

You might find it interesting that the Ithaca 37 was originally a REMINGTON design. Remington either sold the design or Ithaca pirated the design (Not sure which, depends on which historian you read) when Remington dropped it to go with the 870:D
 
Sounds like Remington had better market analysis guys than Ithaca :D

In that regard, though, I always thought that the 870 came out in the 50s and that the Model 37, well...
 
Gunhead, the reason your LE friends urge the 870 upon you is simple. No other shotgun comes close when it comes to reliability and dependability. This is under street conditions, where shotguns rarely get cleaned, lubed, and are subjected to all the detritus and weather there is.

However, most serious shotgunners(Rather than a GOB who shoots a few times a year) maintain the equipment well enough that the advantages of the 870 are not crucial. IOW, if you take proper care of any quality shotgun,it's an incredibly dependable and useful tool.

As to speed, I can traverse fire on 5 targets at 25 yards in 5 seconds with duty 00 and a stock 870 with good hits. Chances are, you could too. I used to get under 4 seconds on occasion. I doubt the best Winchestershooters can cut that time much. Any takers on that?

Remington's Model 17 was the parent of the 37. Ithaca waited until the patents ran out to bring out the 37.The inbetween Remington pump was the Model 31, oft called the "Ball Bearing Corn Shucker".This was a highly machined design like the Model 12 Winchester,and considered its equal. The 31 was dropped in 1949, the 870 was brought out in 1950.The 870 uses more stamped, not machined/costly parts and did so w/o affecting balance, reliability or performance, an engineering tour de force.
 
There's really no wrong choice offered here.
I like the 870, the 1300, and the Mossy. I've owned all three, currently have the 1300. With the 1300 I am somehow able to put lead in the air faster, but that isn' t that huge an advantage. I do like how smooth the action is.
 
I like the 590. I didn't have to add anything to it to get nine rounds and it will also take a bayonet for those matches that require a cold steel finisher on the stop plate. :cool:
 
There ya go ACP230! I put the bayo on my 590 as well, and it is mean looking weapon! I wish I could put it in my cruiser for work...now that would scare the crap outta anyone! ;)
 
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