Again John, thank you, but age and mileage have taken a toll on me. Psoriatic and Osteosis arthritis, 40% loss of color vision, can't see holes beyond 7 yards, too many motorcycle crashes, it all adds up against 20-40 year old Grand Masters. Ok, so maybe for Limited Major 9, a few hundred, but only because it really hasn’t caught on yet against 40S&W major with the same magazine capacity. A 200 grain 40 going 825fps is much more manageable than a 125 grain going 1,400fps. And because the way USPSA scoring works, ie, hit factor (HF) = points earned divided by time. So for example, a 10 target stage, worth 100 points, say from a static box, hoser stage, no movement, no reloads, I run 10 seconds and score 100 points, therefore a HF of 10. But the GM runs 5 seconds with 4 mikes and only earns 60 points (10 points down for each miss). However his fit factor is 60/5 = 12. So even though he has misses, he gets the highest HF, and he takes 100% of the stage points but I only earn 10/12’s of that, or 83 points, instead of the 100 I scored. Division stage winner takes all in USPSA. Now throw in a long field course, worth 160 points, with lots of movement and difficult shooting positions, the separation becomes even larger. Speed is rewarded.