Precautions for paradise

Can you purchase a Mossberg 500 pump shotgun where you are? That is a real winner, made in the USA, and reasonably priced. I'm with all the people advising a shotgun for your home. 12 guage 3" magnum 00 buck gives you nine .38cal balls of lead in every round. What's not to love about that?;)
 
Glad I could help.

Once you get it figured out, give us a run-down of the gun laws in your country..... it would be interesting, I think.

Also, are there still hunting opportunites there?
 
I cannot vouch for the accuracy of the source, but: http://www.gunpolicy.org/firearms/region/kenya
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That info looks correct to me Spats

Can you purchase a Mossberg 500 pump shotgun where you are
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HMC8404 There are only a few firearm dealers and they generally bring one or two types of weapon. (And prices are crazy high). Only shotguns I seen for sale are Banelli and Hatsan. Big price difference between the two, the Hatsan is 1,500 USD, Banelli is double that. What concerns me on the Hatsan is the reliability but quite a few guys have them here.

One interesting thing is second hand weapons here have extremely low resale values. Maybe I could look at second hand.... hmmm... I assume a shotgun does not have a "signature " like a pistol so that shot fired cannot be traced back to a particular weapon (concerned in case a second hand shotgun was used before by a criminal).

Jimbo you can hunt in very specific circumstances/places. But I'm told there is a lot of poaching of wild animals and animal numbers are dropping. Tusks etc going to the East, some guys are making big money on this. I probably would not hunt.
 
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Sounds clean re-sale weapon is the way to go. Your posts make me feel even stronger about how fortunate we are to have the 2nd!:)
 
Sounds clean re-sale weapon is the way to go. Your posts make me feel even stronger about how fortunate we are to have the 2nd!
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Even politicians, and I mean any politicians, are gonna have a hard time talking away the second for you guys. I notice they do try. :mad:

I wonder why re-sale values are so low. Normally used stuff in Kenya has very high resale values. Ill call around and ask
 
So, it sounds as though you are not in as dangerous a situation as I took it from your initial post. I am happy for you it is not the case.

I can understand your comments about your daughter, but she would not be OK if anything tragic happened to you as her Dad and provider.

As another poster stated, if you can obtain a high capacity Mossberg it would make for a great defensive weapon. Mine is a Mossberg 500 ATP8. The A stands for 12 gauge, the TP stands for Tactical Police and the 8 stands for round capacity. A Remington 870 or equivalent is also and excellent shotgun, but the 870 I own only holds 5 rounds. :)
 
I really appreciate straight talk Lamarw and your concern. Honesty is a wonderful virtue.

Choices for shotgun at the moment are Taurus ST12 (pump) and Hatsun (semi auto). I think reliability is the most important factor for my shotgun since if I fire at a BG I'll likely be alone with no immediate backup. I would guess the Taurus is the more reliable of the two cause pumps are mechanically simpler but that would be a total guess on my part. The Hatsun are suppose to be much better than made than when they first started manufacturing. The Taurus I cannot find many reviews on it:

Taurus
http://www.gunsholstersandgear.com/2012/09/26/taurus-st12-shotgun/

Hatsan - quite a few reviews.

http://www.shootinguk.co.uk/reviews/shotgun/hatsan-escort-semi-auto-shotgun-review
 
Thanks Kraigwy nice web site.

Jimbob from your link http://gunfreezone.net/wordpress/index.php/2013/09/23/idpa-club-cl650933-nairobi-kenya/ The man on the left kneeling is one of the heroes of the Westgate attacked he has a company which trains people. I was given his number this week. I might try some lessons with him. (if I can afford them). He trains you to be aware, to run if possible, etc not just to stand at the range shooting "perfectly"


One good thing in Kenya if you kill a BG e.g. someone who breaks into your house no questions will be asked as long as you can show a break-in occurred, or a weapon etc. Even on the street if you kill some thugs no real problems. I won't tell you what the locals do if they catch a small thief, all I will say is that is the last day the thief lives. Its too much for me I would not do it but then again if someone stole the 4 dollars I needed to feed my family I might be angry too.

Many thanks for all your advices guys.
 
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Hello and welcome to the forum.

Long ago, at one time, I too was concerned about security and my well-being. I joined the Army, and became an Airborne Ranger.

I did my 4 yrs. and got out. Then I decided to become a police officer. Spent almost 30 yrs. doing that and then retired.

I don't need no Navy Seal..............;)
 
The glock is a good start get some good self defense rounds for it I like hora dy critical duty but there are lots of good ones.also a moss erg 500 is great for home defense and is very versatile with a huge aftermarket.just remember nothing beats training..but with all that I have to ask why you stay??i know you said your daughter but why not get her out of there also as beautiful as the country may be she is at just as much risk as you..I strongly advise you find a new place for you and your daughter to live since you are in constant danger there
 
my grandmother spent some time in Kenya but retired before I could visit here there

missionary/nurse work and she and her sister could travel the countryside all over without any problems. but this was 20 years ago.

if they worked in the harder parts of Nairobi my great aunt brought her son in law, an american built like a brickhouse.:) seen pictures of him and my great aunts husband with pump shotguns but always assumed it was for lions and such.

surely there must be a market for hunting rifles? no danger of wildlife?
 
but with all that I have to ask why you stay?
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Can't separate the mother from my daughter that would be bad for my daughter and kidnap; highly illegal, plus shes a very good mother. Not married to the mother nor likely to be. Don't think the mother can get a European visa, trying though. Not sure the mother would manage in Europe even if I took her there. Bit of a pickle. :mad::mad:

But please don't think Kenya is a war zone it is not, just very high crime rate. Where I live in Naivasha is pretty safe , Nairobi is the problem place.
 
I really love Kenya. What struck me was seeing 10 or 12 yro Massai boys with a herd of goats, and they were armed with sticks. I had a close call in Nairobi, but not anything that could have happened in any American city.

Naivasha is an amazing area. But you've got hippos, they are a real handful. Good luck, if I were you I'd look for a good shotgun.
 
But you've got hippos, they are a real handful
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Hippos are buffalo darn dangerous if you stumble on them. But a mat is a lot more dangerous if you ask me!

PS A mat is a Kenyan mini bus for anyone who does not know.
 
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