PPK

Icopy & Blues,

There were only a few changes made to the P230 that now designate the P232. The grips became larger, the decocker is now "frame mounted" like all other Sigs and they beveled the sharp edges in the front of the silde and reduced that amout of slide cuts. They also added the nightsight option. I'm with FUD. I have shot both and the P230SL felt and shot better due to slimmer grip thickness.

What they should have done in 96' when it was re-designed was:
1) Made it the size of the PPK or at least offer a P232 "American Pocket Model".
2) Offer flat-based mags.
3) Kept the same grips as the P230.


Blues:

The only advise on the PPK/s I can give you is go to the range and rent one for a day. See how it feels in your hand and you be the judge. Also look at prices for ammo. I suspect that you will find the 9mm ammo cheaper than the .380ACP

Since you are going from an airgun, you might want to start with a .22 Ruger MarkII, or some other .22 target semi-auto pistol and hone your marksmanship skills with it. This will also get you use to operating an auto-loading pistol.

I am in the process of purchasing a Beretta Cheetah Model 87W in .22cal. This gun would make a lot of sense for you because it will get you use to an autoloader and you can always step-up to their model 85F Cheetah that is the exact same size, but is a .380ACP or even move up to a full size Beretta 9mm.

Anyway, I hope that helps you out.

Best Regards,
Hann
 
The sig is a nice gun but the walther is smaller and has a US style mag release. The PPK/S fits my hand just right with out the snagging finger rest mag extension. I slimmed down the grips and recheckered them as they are very thick and square at the base. The feed ramp and throat did need a polish job to get perfect feeding though. My Colt .45 has been in retirement since I got the walther as it is just much mor handy to carry. The only complaint I have is I did wear out a .380 mag for it, the feed lips cracked at the back of the mag. With some work they are capable of a very nice smooth trigger pull.
 
Han --
Thanks for the info. personally, I felt the grip on my 230 was too slippery. So i put on some hogues. They're a tiny bit thicker than the factory, but slimmer than the new 232s.

Blues --

A .22 would be perfect for you. You can get a Ruger for around $175. Good luck.
 
I have a .380 PPK made in the USA, in stainless steel, and a German made Interarms imported .380 PP, made in 1971. When I first got the PPK about 8 years ago I tried hollowpoints through it as it was going to be used as a duty weapon (undercover drug enforcement work). It jammed constantly. I smoothed the feed ramp some and sent it back to the factory where they took a little metal off of the bottom of both sides of the breechface collar. After that it worked great. Although lately it has started having a little problem with FMJ's, but it may be my not locking my wrist as well as I should. It kicks pretty good in my hand and I have been bit many times on the web of my firing hand by the slide. Its hard to keep the proper grip on that small of a pistol after the first shot.

The PP at first worked OK (got it used about 12 years ago) then later on the hammer would follow the slide down and lock up. Then pulling the trigger required the strength of an ape, and the hammer would not go all the way back. I found that the hammer sear was slipping off the cocking piece jamming it up. I broke the cocking piece trying to get it out and I let the pistol sit for about 11 years broken. Recently I replaced the cocking piece and a few other small parts that were in need of replacement and after getting the cocking piece and hammer to fit and contact correctly, it now functions great.

I think what caused the hammer to slip off the cocking piece was TOO MUCH oil on it. I think it slipped off because the oil took up too much space in the tiny edge Walther uses for a hammer contact point on the cocking piece. I would advise only a very light film of oil at that contact point.

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Gun Toter
 
Does anyone have experience with the PP model, specifically the .32?
Is it the same grip as a PPKS, but with a slightly longer barrel length than the PPK, Is that correct?
Does anyone know about reliability issues between this model and the ave. PPK? What about .32 vs .380 regarding reliability, not stopping power?
I personally never here people talking of the PP model, is that because James Bond didn't use it???
 
I have owned both the American and German Walthers PPKs and the German is the only one to have. The American version is a gorgeous gun but not very reliable. The West German is a joy to behold and very reliable.

7th

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No doubt this has been said already, I didnt bother to read th thread. Ok. The Walther PPK is availible in: .22 Long Rifle caliber. This is a small rimfire caliber meaning the primer which the firing pin strikes is on the rim of the cartridge;.32 caliber is called in Europe 7.65mm, that how many milimeters the bore diameter is. This is a centerfire cartrige. That means that the primer which the firing pin stries is in the center of the back of the cartridge; .380 caliber is a .38 caliber. The bore diameter is somewhere around .38 inches(most calibers, are not exact). It is called 9mm Kurtz in Germany. Kurtz meaning "short" in german. 9mm is also a .38 caliber. Its 9mm x 17mm meaning the bore is 9mm and the shell casing is 17mm's long There are a few differnt 9mm's. The most common probably being 9mm luger 9mm x 19. Hope I didnt cofuse you to much.

[This message has been edited by MrBlonde (edited May 14, 2000).]
 
Captain Bligh,

I get little red railroad tracks every time I pull the trigger of a PPK.

I've still put a few thousand rounds through an American one, and never had a problem.

Steve
 
FYI, the PPK that Bond used (at least at first) was a .32 caliber (7.65mm).

Furthermore, anyone who owns a PPK and denies any 007 influence in their purchase decision is lying! I love my PPK (stainless American .380), and bought the P99 as soon as Tomorrow Never Dies came out.
 
Forget the PPK, except for fun and nostalgia. If you want a practical, high powered PPK sized weapon, get a KAHR MK9 or MK40 or Glock 26 or 27 (a little thicker and longer).

The PPK is just myth - a nice myth, but myth. That James Bond thing. Love to own one for fun, but when your life is on the line, 9X19 is minimum.

Ian Fleming could write, but his knowledge of weapons was confined to covert sneak up and shoot point blank clandestine. A .22 will do the job for that kind of action. But when the bad guy is in your face, give me a 9X19 and up hollow point.
 
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