Possible home invasion atempt...

[Sportdog]

If they arrested everyone who "threatened bodily harm", half my hometown would be in jail! "I'll f*** you up", "I'll pop a cap on your a**" etc. etc. etc. are standard statements if you dare make eye contact with the local gang banger wannabees. The police would laugh in your face if you even hinted that something be done about it. I guess there are parts of the country more civilized than we are around here.

 

[Nnobby45]

I held my hands in the air with CCW in hand, said I was the homeowner and legally armed. I offered to surrender my weapon. Female officer asked where it was and removed it from the IWB holster.

I'm not offering major criticism, but sometimes I wonder why so many posters can't wait to let LE know they're armed and surrender their weapons. Things went fine, in this case.

In my city, an officer was informed by a citizen that he was armed, and the officer just had to take his weapon to check it and see if it was loaded (why wouldn't it be?). It was-- and while the officer was retracting the slide with finger on trigger, the citizen was shot. Not life threatening.

After yet another ND in similar fashion, the department decided that, if the citizen was legally armed, there was no need to handle the weapon and see if it was loaded.

I think that having CCW and DL in hand when LE arrives is sufficent. You'll be instructed in what to do. I did that on one occasion, and my DL and CCW were handed back without so much as a word.

 

[Keltyke]

I think that having CCW and DL in hand when LE arrives is sufficent.

Unless I'm holding the suspect at gunpoint or the gunfight is still in progress, my weapon will be safetied and back in the holster when the LEOs pull up. I will identify myself as the victim, offer my identification and CWP permit as my state law requires, and inform the officer I am armed and tell him where the gun is. I will follow his instructions from that point on. I'd rather inform the officer I am armed than have him discover it in any subsequent search.

Openness, forthrightness, and truthfulness goes a long way when dealing with the law in a "street" situation.

It's common practice for a LEO to disarm anyone they're taking with in a "situation". It's for everyone's protection. The LEO wants to be the only one on the scene with a firearm, and I don't really blame him. Besides, after the LEOs arrive, I don't need my weapon.

I've been disarmed once and asked to "not put my hands near my weapon " twice. No problem in any of those situations.

 

[Relayer]

For sale by owner always creates a certain amount of risk. You are basically inviting any and all to come in for a look see, for any reason they like. I would definitely schedule any appointments to show the house for at least a day after the initial call/contact, and get a number to call them back to confirm (kind of a cooling off period, if you will).

If someone knocks on the door you can just not answer it and let them call the number on the For Sale sign. Again, schedule to show the next day, or so, callback number, etc..

When they show up, check them out as they approach the house and if you are alarmed by what you see, just don't answer the door. When showing the house, don't lead the person(s) through the house. Let them lead, you follow (ie, don't let them get behind you). That way, if things go bad wrong, you have a chance of getting your weapon into action.

For my money, I would not make an appointment to show your home to anyone that cannot, for whatever reason, communicate clearly with you. The chances of getting to a binding deal are, at best, pretty remote. You should have a list of questions prepared to ask them when they call to test their sincerity. Where do they currently live? When do they plan to buy? Do they have a home to sell before they can buy your home? Have they pre-qualified with a lender? Who is the lender (company, person, tel #)?

If they get testy, nervous, or confused, then they are probably not serious buyers for your home, anyway.

Good luck

 

[Bob F.]

My wife says she don't like it and tells me I should arm myself. Something just seemed creepy

That's all you need. Always trust your instincts, ALWAYS!!

Stay safe.
Bob

 

[skeeter1]

"My wife says she don't like it and tells me I should arm myself. Something just seemed creepy

That's all you need. Always trust your instincts, ALWAYS!!"

I don't know what the law is in south Florida, but here in Ohio, it's perfectly legal to carry a firearm in your own house, and I do. When I leave the house, then I switch to a little (2.5") folding knife, also quite legal. CCW licenses are dreadfully expensive. Last time I checked ($175), so I gave up on the idea. Besides, I have to walk with a cane everywhere anymore, and I have several, and I suspect any of them would make a good shillelagh (I have one of those, too) if I ever needed it, and perfectly legal.

The little NAA revolver that I carry in my pocket around the house might not be much, but I've shot it, and with CCI Velocitors, well, I wouldn't want to be on the receiving end. I keep a .38Spl+P by my bed. The bigger iron is all locked up in the safe.

Sorry, I'm rambling. I tend to do that sometimes.

 

[Nnobby45]

Quote:
I think that having CCW and DL in hand when LE arrives is sufficent.

Unless I'm holding the suspect at gunpoint or the gunfight is still in progress............

LOL, Ah, Jeez, no kidding? if you were in the middle of a gunfight or holding the suspect at gun point, that would be quite different than ZO6vettever's situation in which the suspect left the scene before officers arrived. It's only to that, or similar situations (no gunfights in progress or drawn guns) I was referring to.

Then you went an injected the hypothectical-- you crafty devil. LOL

 

[HogManMagnum]

hey, Z06, u did the right thing and im glad it worked out ok. south florida has had a rise in home invasions lately so i cant balme anyone for even overreacting in that situation...

at the end of the day the BGs are scared off, the family is safe and u didnt have to fire the sigma. good deal

 

[Nnobby45]

Last evening about 6PM I got a call from someone who could hardly speak English who wanted to see my house (for sale by owner)........

I live in an area north of Reno called the North Valleys. Homes in my neighborhood are 1 acre lots. There have been many homes for sale for a long time and a high percentage of buyers are Hispanic whose language skills range from zero to excellent. Mostly good folks who like horses, keep to themselves, and are family oriented.

If somebody is coming to look at your house, then it's logical that they'd be a couple. With English skills sorely lacking, as in the case of your prospective buyer, the "Spanish jib" you described may have been an attempt to communicate after being threatened with bullet holes should he not show up alone--especially if he was on his way with wife, mother-in law, and all the kids--with everyone eager to look at their possible new home.

You were quite correct to be on alert and suspicious, but, under the circumstances, you might have, from the start, asked him who was coming with him, what kind of car did he drive, etc. Sounds like the kind of thing that could happen with someone who "barely speaks English".

What are the chances that language barrier was the problem? I don't know, but I suspect a lot more likely than gang bangers who want to gain access to your home through trickery and rob you--- or worse. I'm not saying you were wrong, just that you might have left out the bullet hole part.

If something similar to way I described was the case, it might have been who called the police in stead of you. Guess we'll never know if you saved your lives or just scared some people looking for a new home.

 

[Slopemeno]

I also think it's a good argument for subbing out what youre not prepared to do yourself. Having your house emptied, then staged, and sold by a realtor will probably make you more money anyway. I'd be willing to bet speaking Spanish isn't a bad call these days for realtors either.

I'm all for being prepared, but let's be realistic. What percentage of "visits" results in a home invasion in the US every year? Very, very, very few.

 

[JAYBIRD78]

Strange indeed. You did what you felt was right and no blood/no foul as far as I'm concerned.

What does concern me is yet again the cops don't trust you/me/us. Unload for their safety? THEY are in control of YOUR firearm while being ARMED themselves. What isn't all ready safe about that. Then in my opinion to rub salt in a wound they run the serial number on your pistol. Like Joe Citizen is going to bring a illegal gun with him to the door with cops showing up.

ATTENTION: THEY don't trust you.............so PLEASE DON'T trust THEM.

BE SAFE

 

[heyduke]

I guess I don't get it.

No one broke in, let alone showed up at the house

Then, the cops come and you're raising your gun in the air

I guess I consider myself lucky. The road to my house is on my land, and you can't see the house from the road. Someone comes to my house, either myself or my animals will know it, and by chance if someone comes down that road meaning me harm, they will wish I called the local sheriff