Police Officers Sue Taser for Training Injuries

I have only what you said to go on regarding Rodney King being a textbook case of anything regarding baton use. I can't say I ever saw the entire video for sure, but what I can say is that from what I remember, I don't think that during the protracted batonning of King, two or three strapping cops could not have managed to get his damned hands behind his back and into cuffs. What I mean to say is that I think at some point before the beating ceased, he was already in a condition where he could have been cuffed.

There are certain segments of the population that will be satisfied ONLY when a court decides exactly as they were wanting it to decide even before the first day of a trial. They are willing to accept a jury's verdict -- as long as it's "the cops are guilty." Not so willing, they are, to accept a verdict contrary to what they wanted found. That is a form of abuse of the courts, and of trust in the system. After the fact, it became clear that the black community in L.A. was going to be satisfied ONLY if the cops who beat King were convicted. One cannot say that one trusts that a guilty verdict is valid, if one could ever be shown to believe that a not guilty verdict is valid. It's like saying that somehow you know before a trial even starts what the verdict should be, and the court is simply there to rubber-stamp YOUR decision of guilty.

Anyway, I don't think that we can be so sure that if King had been TASERed instead of batonned, that there would not have been riots after the cops' acquittal.

And look at what that engendered, anyway: now any time they fail to convict someone of the crime with which they are charged, they can try them AGAIN (a precedent has been set) on "CIVIL RIGHTS" charges! :rolleyes: That's a travesty of justice if ever there was one. It's like the prosecutor calling for a "do-over" to which they are NOT entitled.

-blackmind
 
A guy who would simply get bruised up because he's high on cocaine and the cops wrestle him to the ground to arrest him might just DIE if they instead use a TASER.
You either fail to or outright ignore what has been proven time and again in "arrest deaths".
People who die tend to:

1- resist arrest violently (exerting themselves)

2- have illegal drugs in their body (some at lethal & near lethal levels, by themselves)

3- be in poor condition (from use of said illegal drugs)

4- die from the EXERTION of resisting arrest (poor condition and then being able to easilly exceed the envelope because of the drugs in the system make it that much more deadly)

There are more Arrest deaths from NON-Taser arrests than from Taser arrests. It's just that the Taser is the new kid on the block and rip for targeting.
This exact same hysteria came around when OC was first introduced and used by Police. The only difference is some were trying to say "anaphylactic shock" was the cause of some deaths. It all panned out and proved to be bunk, and deaths were overwhelming based on the factors I listed above. Same for the Taser.



Man subdued by pepper spray dies

Man dies after baton strikes 2nd article

Link with Video of incident
 
"Most people will survive a minor beating-during-arrest, of the type that TASERs are now being used to replace."

A "minor beating", that's rich.......Kinda like the "9 stitches=misdemeanor / 10 stitches plus =felony" rule.......
 
sendec said:
A "minor beating", that's rich.......Kinda like the "9 stitches=misdemeanor / 10 stitches plus =felony" rule.......

Uh, no... :rolleyes: "Kinda like" exactly what I said. If you're having trouble reading and comprehending, that isn't my problem.

-blackmind
 
theebadone said:
There are more Arrest deaths from NON-Taser arrests than from Taser arrests. It's just that the Taser is the new kid on the block and rip (sic) for targeting.

Uh, are you talking about raw incident numbers or percentages? Of course there are more arrest deaths from non-TASER arrests than from TASER arrests! There simply are far more non-TASER arrests, period! What are the numbers per 1,000 arrests, though? Let's compare apples to apples, please. Numbers mean nothing in this case: percentages would.

-blackmind
 
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