Police issue pistols

I bought a police trade M&P 40 about 2 years ago. It was in good shape and had functional night sights. $340. Minor holster wear was the only issue.

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Do Glocks need cleaned? Seriously, they don't really need much, except for looks. I picked up an Leo return that looked pretty rough, but after a good cleaning was like new!
 
Funny story about cleaning: My wife took "NRA Basic Pistol for Women" at the NRA HQ range in Fairfax. There were two instructors, I'll call them Betty and Sally. Betty was older and carried a 1911, Sally was in her 20's and carried a Glock. Both were practical pistol competitors. My wife got Betty as her instructor for the range portion.

My wife asked Betty how often a gun should be cleaned. Betty answered in a very gossipy tone, "Well, I clean my gun after every shooting. But Sally (eye roll) will go weeks without cleaning her Glock. It's sooooo gross!"

Back to the main discussion, though, I'm really upset that I keep hearing "A lot of cops are not into guns." To me, that is inexcusable. It's fine if they are not gun hobbyists, but the gun is the most prominent piece of gear they carry and the one we most intrust them to be responsible with. I don't want a surgeon who is "not into scalpels" or a carpenter who is "not into saws." It should be like the military was when I was in. Respect for your weapon was an absolute. You could get time in the brig for neglecting or abusing a weapon.
 
t's fine if they are not gun hobbyists, but the gun is the most prominent piece of gear they carry and the one we most intrust them to be responsible with. I don't want a surgeon who is "not into scalpels" or a carpenter who is "not into saws." It should be like the military was when I was in. Respect for your weapon was an absolute. You could get time in the brig for neglecting or abusing a weapon.weapon.

I think your analogy is honestly wrong. A surgeon needs to use that scalpel every day to do his job. The same is true for the carpenter. Police are not the military. There are officers that will go their entire careers without discharging a firearm in the line of duty. That's the truth of it. Now they may hold suspects at bay with it but depending on your locale the application of deadly force might well be something that an officer never needs to do. Their primary role isn't to engage an enemy as the people they're interacting with are the general public.

Now do I believe and would I accept the argument that you need to be sure the firearm is functioning as well as possible if that moment should arise? Absolutely. I have an Excel sheet with every firearm I own that lists the type and quantity of ammunition fired though that weapon, dates and round counts of part replacements, and notes on any failures I might see. I go all out when it comes to maintenance. But it's not impossible for me to imagine that an officer that can easily spend decades in the job can become complacent over the years.

In the military I imagine it was the expectation that you might well use that firearm once deployed. In the police it's your responsibility to do your utmost to not use that firearm if possible. To be fair, I've also met my share of military guys that aren't as religious about maintenance as others. If you didn't have a combat MOS then that complacency can strike there too.
 
i own several police trade in's , some smelled like coffee and cigarettes. Seriously.
Most cops spend 20 years with their guns in the holster.
I have family that fire their service weapons once a year to qualify. My brother in law has been carrying his G19 for 19 years and runs 50 rounds a year through it. Hasn't cleaned it once. Matter of fact, I don't think he knows how to clean it.
 
pretty much with cops you have two types, the ones that understand that you have to clean your gun, just as much as you have to change the oil in your car. the second type didn't grow up around guns, don't like guns, and shoot just enough to make it through their pistol qualifications. they never clean them because they are either worried that they will break it, or simply don't understand that your gun needs to be clean to function properly. it is the same in the military although they are usually split along the grunt/POG partylines. it's one reason that I will not buy police tradeins or milsurps from pre-vietnam periods.
 
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