Police handguns.

An area in the USA might have a local city police force, county police forces (often more than one- for instance, a sheriff's department AND a constabulary), a state police force, and then the federal FBI,

Don't forget transit police, housing police, campus police at each college/university, capitol police in most state capitals, DOT branches of state police, Fish and Game wardens/police, park police, etc., and then you get to the federal level. There are THOUSANDS of police/ law enforcement organizations and each one does things a little differently, dependent upon suspected "need" and want
 
Interesting answers nothing wrong with changing and updating firearms. I tought it would be expensive to keep changing but probably getting good deals on large number of firearms.

PS. Some UK police have needed and used their firearms. You can see why when you see what they were coming up against.

IRA WEAPONRY
1,000 rifles
2 tonnes of Semtex
20-30 heavy machine guns
7 Surface-to-air missiles (unused)
7 flame throwers
1,200 detonators
11 rocket-propelled grenade launchers
90 hand guns
100+ grenades
 
Perhaps I have been misinformed, but as I understand it, "armed police" in the UK are not allowed to ever fire even pistols except on a police range and under rigid supervision. They are also required to fire only a small number of rounds (12) for qualification and not permitted to fire any more. Any interest in hunting or in shooting for one's own recreation is actively discouraged because it would show an interest in guns, something not allowed in the UK police. In fact, any appliicant for the police who has had any experience with guns or hunting will be turned down because he/she might "sympathize" with gun owners instead of treating them as evil enemies of the state.

Most "armed police" are not permitted to carry guns except in specific situations, and after proper authorization. Once the emergency situation is over, the gun must be turned in. The few police who are allowed to carry guns on duty, must turn them in when off duty. So of course there is no such thing as an officer going to a public range and firing several hundred rounds a week, as some officers do in the U.S. And the idea of a police officer who collects or shoots guns as a hobby would give the authorities the blue horrors in the UK.

Jim
 
I have an uncle that was a PO for Detroit pd from the mid 60's till about 2000. He had a model 10 till about the mid 80s then a S&w 645 then I'm not sure when but a glock 22 till he retired.
I think some of it had to do with a shift in attitude after the Miami and N Hollywood shootouts. Cops carried 38s for all those years cause they were good enough (uncle found out not quite when he tried to intervine on a car theft off duty in 1977 and the thief tried to run him down so he put 6 38s into the windshield with no penetration) then the shootouts happened and all the admins and trainers got a shift in their reality and they've been searching for the "perfect" thing ever since. Then you add the explosion of technology over the last 25 years. There's too much to list. Then you add in the availibility of homeland security grants and the deals that gun mfgs do and yeah they change every few years. Since my uncle has retired dpd has changed again to the m&p40 so same caliber, essentially same action. Only difference is form factor, which for smaller officers is huge. Only other reason is s&w's deal.
 
James K. Hi you are mostly correct the police in England Scotland and wales or not armed. They have to call for an armed response units if there is an incident and wait for them to arrive usually to late. They have to return their firearms in after their shift.
The police in N Ireland a which is part of the UK are armed. They take there firearms home with them for personal protection.
 
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James K., I won't say that the things you say aren't true, but I myself have worked alongside British police officers who were firearms trained, and haven't heard things like those :confused:. It sounds a bit exaggerated that an officer would be "advised" to avoid private activities that involved shooting, since that would come in direct conflict with his privacy, and after all, he wouldn't be doing anything unlawful. Certainly, the regular British cops aren't armed, but their "armed response" units are, as far as I know, motorized. This "armed response vehicles", are the ones who are called upon when the need comes, apart from officers who work in plain clothes on a regular basis and are armed on duty, too, without the need to of asking for permission to retrieve a firearm from the armory should the need come, if that's what you meant. Most of the ones I worked with were MoD (Ministry of Defense) Police, and some others were London Metro or from other cities. In the UK, there is just one "Police", although each town has its own force.

It is true that we don't replace our firearms as often as you do, and I guess it's for a number of reasons. One is the costs involved, another one is that every time you replace the sidearms, your officers will have to undergo refreshment training. And that means more costs and withdrawing your officers from the streets. No supervisor likes to have his manpower depleted due to training, I can assure you that.

In my case, after nearly 20 years of service, I started out with the old Star BM, single-stack single action, to the Star 30M, double stack-DA/SA (a pistol I liked so much that I've purchased one for my personal use) and now to the Beretta 92FS. The 92FS is not, however, the only sidearm used in my agency. Plain clothes people use HK USPc, and the tactical units use a the HK USP, Glock 17, and IIRC, some Ruger .44 revolvers, although it is the G17 what they usually carry.

True, too, that we're organized in a different manner. Cities can have, and usually do, their own departments, but there's always a national level police force along with them, and investigations are run always by the latter, leaving the municipalities' police to assist the national-level police force (which is also a uniform wearing force, unlike your FBI) in patrol duties, and to traffic duties. There's one national-level police agency in the cities, and another one for the smaller towns, traffic control and accident investigations (at the level a State Police would do in the US) in Highways, borders and customs, airport security, coast guard, etc... and both agencies have their own riot-control and tactical units. This system is found in France, Spain, Portugal and Italy.

In my case, I HOPE I would be given the chance to choose what firearm/ammo to carry. Here, you have to use what you're issued, and that's it.
 
Good sales people.....and budgets...are major factors in the depratments choices...
Glocks are chosen because of ease of use and there inherent ruggedness....
I don't care for Glocks..but "they are what they are" ..simple, effective, and durable ..
 
IRA WEAPONRY
1,000 rifles
2 tonnes of Semtex
20-30 heavy machine guns
7 Surface-to-air missiles (unused)
7 flame throwers
1,200 detonators
11 rocket-propelled grenade launchers
90 hand guns
100+ grenades



I'd wager the average LA gang has this much ordinance in their club house. :)
 
I dont know.... I carried the same Model 10 revolver for 25 years. My department allowed some choice so I owned several duty weapons. Even after we went semi auto... It was a choice the Officer could get one of the authorized semi's, or retain his revolver... or be authorized to carry either as a duty weapon.

I've never shot at a car. But the .38 served me well.
 
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