Police action?

"...could you please identify specifically where I can go to "read the applicable Texas state laws" "on the subject"?"

Well, if you Google "Texas state gun laws" you'll get ten pages of hits. Ultimately you are responsible for knowing the law, so if you ask here you'd better be able to tell the difference between a knowledgeable person and an internet commando. I also have seen law enforcement officers who were misinformed about some laws, especially arcane gun laws. I am *absolutely not* saying that that has happened in this thread.

Tim
 
Answering a question NOT asked

Mike Irwin, thanks for the links - the likes of which I visit sufficiently regularly, especially via packing.org. But the sources you've identified do NOT - to my understanding - answer the question I asked. I think you'll agree that it is rather "non-creative" (to say the least) - to merely say "Go check the books!" Of equal help is the instruction to go "Google "Texas state gun laws" you'll get ten pages of hits".

I agree that there are "law enforcement officers who were misinformed," like there are so many other categories of people who are "misinformed" and deliberately misinforming.

I take owning and carrying a firearm very seriously. So when I ask a question - silly, dumb, etc. - and I get what I consider useful answers - and I'm very grateful for the several useful answers I've got here over the time I've been here - I then double-check. The company of the "wise" is always a boon - I think.;)
 
"I then double-check."

In that case, why don't you save time by double-checking before you ask the question?

Tim
 
Benzene,

"But the sources you've identified do NOT - to my understanding - answer the question I asked."


On the contrary, they do exactly that.

The applicable laws tell you, as a permit holder, what you are required to do when you are stopped by an officer and you're carrying a gun. You are to voluntarily tell the officer that you are carrying a weapon and the officers have the authority to SECURE your handgun for the duration of the interaction.

Legally, seizing something and securing something are completely different concepts.

Note this on the page that I linked: "A trooper may disarm a licensee anytime he or she feels that safety is at risk. The trooper will return the gun at the end of the traffic stop when the threat to safety has passed."

Note that there is nothing about seizure in that section, nor is there anything there, or in the statutes linked from the DPS site, that say anything about you having to immediately surrender all of your firearms.

Obviously, if you're found to be breaking the law in some manner you could be arrested. At that point it is very likely that your weapon WILL be seized.

At that point the rest of your firearms collection MAY be seized, but at that point ONLY through a process that followes applicable state and federal law.

Your friend's claim, on its face, infers that ANY interaction with an officer for ANY reason at all will result in the seizure (again, different from securing) of not only the weapon you're carrying at that time but all of your weapons.

That is preposterous.

"Checking the books" is, then, a very logical step.

Why?

Because the books apply not only to you, but to the police, as well.



P.S. -- Be sure to read GC 411.206. It talks about arrest of the licensee and seizure of the handgun.

GC 411.207 talks about securing a weapon during an interaction, as well as its return to the licensee.

Note again the lack of any requirement in those sections for you to surrender all of your firearms.
 
Benzene

My agency is the one that does all the CHL licensing, regulating, background investigating, and revocations in Texas. Since we are the ones that approve or deny licenses, we are required to know the correct information. I conduct an average 3 to 4 CHL investigations weekly. 7 to be exact last week. I can tell you, the info I gave you IS correct. I you need anymore info or clarification, PM me.
 
Statuate 1070 states: in the state of Florida that only when asked dose the armed indivual have to tell he/she is carrying a firearm or assorted weapons.
But in truth the police do what they want anyone want to argue about that go right ahead. Remember it's your word agianst theirs.

I'm law abbiding(as is majority of my family) but general concensous is, still don't like cops. Personal things I guess. So when people say they can't do that I laugh. I laugh hard.

Police do what they want, go ahead try to stop them.
 
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