Please recommend 45 Colt ammo for handguns?

Biff Tannen

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.410? {Yawn!}
Can someone please recommend any .45 Colt ammo for short barrel handguns such as the Judge for SD purposes?
Any web site recommendations are welcomed!
Ballistics on .45 Colt is so dang limited!
THANK YOU!
 
For the love of all that is, maybe or might be holy please anything but the Winchester Silvertips. (In our testing on some hogs that were being converted to sauage and dinner it had almost no expansion)

Corbon DPX would be a nice choice, expensive but your lifes worth it.
 
If you go to most ammo manufacturer's websites they will have ballistics on the 45 Colt. You can also download reloading ballistics from the powder manufacturers as well such as: http://data.hodgdon.com/cartridge_load.asp. Check out the bullet manufacturers also as they will have information.

As far as recommending, my choice would be the Hornady XTP.

I reload mine and haven't bought any commercial .45 Colt in 15 years. Hornady XTP is one of my favorite bullets to reload followed by Speer Gold Dot. For just plinking I use just plain lead bullets, either RN or Flat. Sure is fun to shoot.
 
I would not recommend ANY 410 rounds for use in a pistol as you have no control over the spread and penetration according to some is questionable.

For myself Its just not a good pistol round period.
 
BGutzman wrote:
I would not recommend ANY 410 rounds for use in a pistol as you have no control over the spread and penetration according to some is questionable.

Good call, and I didn't want to confuse things on the handgun forum, but since we're on the subject...
What do you recommend for a .45 colt for a 20" barrel rifle?
(sorry to mix handguns/rifles on the handgun forum, but I'll take the voice of wisdom, reason, and experience any way I can get it!)
Seriously, sorry if I've broken a tradition by asking this on this particular thread... If I'm out of line, please tell me and I'll retract the question.
THANK YOU!
 
Handload; Speer Deep Curl 250 grain over 7.6 grains of Unique.
Any of the factory loads (standard pressure) with Gold Dot / Deep Curl bullets.*
Buffalo Bore (their standard loads, not their maximum)

* the Speer Gold Dot and Speer Deep Curl are basically the same bullet.
 
Do not use reloads for self defense. Only factory. You could be in legal trouble.

I frequently see this claim but I find no evidence, perhaps you can point me to some? There was an issue a few years ago (I forget in which state) where a person used hand loads in self defense, but it was never a meaningful part of the legal action and expressly was not part of the court's findings.
 
The 225g Silvertip.
It wasn't really ever intended for hogs.

Live hogs were be an excellent test, but any dead flesh behaves differently than live and using carcasses or butchered meat for ballistics testing has been broadly determined to be unreliable.
 
What we were actually doing was beginning the process of butchering hogs.

We (my family and a friends family) pay a farmer X amount of money to raise 6 or 8 hogs and then we kill, gut, clean, cut, brine and smoke them to our own taste. In the end it cost me about $2.75 - $3.00 per pound versus store prices although it takes a couple of weeks worth of work.

My wife has fallin in love with her Springfield XD 40 (3 in barrel) and she wanted to use it to drop our half of the hogs. My very good friend has a Taurus Judge that he wanted to try for dropping there half of the pigs.

My friend shot his first hog from a distance of about 6 inches in the front of the head with the 40 LC Winchester Silver Tip. His hog jerked and jerked for almost 3 minutes which was very concerning as we dont want any animal to suffer. (We did the throat cut right after the shot on all hogs regardless of who shot what) My wife shot our hogs in the same location with he 40 using Corbon DPX and it jerked for no more than 20 seconds.

We killed 8 hogs and the result was the same every time.

When we were removing the heads and skin we always make a point to try to find the bullet. The Corbon DPX was (to the eye) fully expanded and intact and left a almost on inch path though the head. (The path was bloodshod)The Winchester Silver Tips in every case expanded very, very little and we ended up finding at least two of them in the hogs throat area.

The path the Silvertips left was hardly bigger than the barely expanded bullet.

Now not to be critical of my trusted old friend, but I spend time and money researching the rounds we (my wife and I) carry for SD prior to buying them.
My buddy on the other hand openly admitted he liked the silver look and it was much less expensive and a hollowpoint, he did no reading up or looking at any sort of stats prior to buying.

Anyway for me I will never buy a silvertip after this experience (not that it was even in the consideration prior to this).

I was just shocked how due to what I see as poor bullet selection the gun that clearly could have more energy behind a larger, heavier round had far inferior results.

I will be buying my friend some 45 LC DPX for next year and maybe I can make a point by showing what should be a much better result from his own gun.
 
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I've got nearly two whole boxes of these left. Just shot one round thru a Judge. Trying to find someone that I don't like enough to shoot one loading of five rounds...

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Gutzman,

Just a couple of questions: What is the 40 LC Win. Silvertip? Specifically the "LC" part? Was this a 40 S&W round? I'm confused here, doesn't the Judge carry a .45 Colt round ?

So if I'm right you had 2 guns one shooting .40S&W (the XD) and one in .45 Colt (Long Colt or LC as some say) the Judge.

The .40 S&W was a Cor-Bon DPX load right? What weight bullet?

From the Judge you shot a Win. Silvertip in .45 Colt, what weight bullet?

You placed the guns 6" from the head and shot into the front of the skull, is that right?

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It would be hard to find a .45 Colt round that's *not* good for self-defense. It's that good a cartridge. Even if it doesn't expand at all, it's already a full .45"

Just pick one you like, or roll your own (225 to 255 grain bullets are best, unless this is for hunting big game then go a little heavier)
 
It would be hard to find a .45 Colt round that's *not* good for self-defense. It's that good a cartridge. Even if it doesn't expand at all, it's already a full .45"

It is subjective to a point. Yes, certainly a 45 round has more surface area then most rounds and is going to leave a larger hole based off diameter.

All other things being equal however a hollowpoint type round can create a much larger wound (IF) it fully expands than what a ball round or a poorly performing hollowpoint will.

What was less subjective was putting down the hogs. If I have to shoot a BG I want to stop him fast for my own protection and his protection. The less rounds you have to expend to stop a BG the greater the chance that the BG will survive the encounter to face the justice system.

A BG that keeps shooting for two or three minutes after you hit him would be a problem, 20 seconds still sucks but its a lot less time.

No one things 100% cure but I at least want to try to put the odds on my side as reasonably as possible.
 
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My .45 Colt is always loaded with a handloaded LSWC and although it is not one of my SD weapons, I am confident that it would do a good job on a human. I get 0 expansion:).
 
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