Please help me choose 2 handguns!

warman

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Going to a gunshow this weekend. I have $1000 and want to buy a .357/.38 or 44 mag revolver and a .45ACP, which 2 should I look at. I'm going to look at all I can, but with limited funds I need some help narrowing down my choices.
The big trick is I want to be able to alternate conceal carry these 2 so size is a factor and I have bigger hands.
I want to be efficient.
Any help is appreciated. Thanks.
 
$1000 probably won't get you a worthy .44 to be paired with your .45 auto.

In fact, 3-4 years ago it might have gotten you excellent .357 and .45 auto specimens, but today it's gonna be tougher.

I'd say to focus on one gun or the other and then see where you end up.

Lots of folks will argue that the only gun a fella needs is a 6-shot .357, and all the rest are just toys.

You could also make a parallel argument that if you've got one good .45 auto, what the heck do you need anything else for?

So:

Get what you WANT for one of them. Don't compromise and get two so-so guns, which you'll want to upgrade/replace both of them down the road.

That being said:

I'd suggest looking for a Dan Wesson revolver, but one that isn't in a complete pistol kit. I inspected a .44 Dan Wesson with a 6" barrel a couple years ago, and the seller wanted $300 for it. I was dead-set on getting a Marlin Camp .45 at that particular show so I passed, but otherwise I to this day wish I could have scrounged the $300 for the Dan Wesson. You should be able to find a .357 DW in the same price range.

That leaves $600-$700 for your .45 auto.

If you want it to be something you'll really appreciate and not wish you did slightly better on your purchase.... I'd say to stay away from Taurus and RIA .45's. Try to find one of the following: Springfield Loaded, Springfiled Mil-Spec, Colt 1991, Para GI Expert. If you're looking for a .45 that isn't a 1911 design, then I'd say the Glock 30 and 36 are good choices but the 21 is not since your goal is concealment. Also good is the Springer XD45 Compact.
 
comn-cents - thank you. Rugers would go nicely with my 9mm Ruger and I love the made in USA part. Not familiar with Springfields but will definitely give em a look.

azredhawk44 - really excellent advice. Gave me alot to think about. Since I'm a new owner of guns, I haven't really developed much discrimination yet so I do plan on looking (touching) at as many as I can to choose. THanks also for the tips on what not to get, I have to admit Taurus looks good but not familiar with the quality. Thanks a million!
 
It would be hard to go wrong with either a Ruger or DW in the revolver department. For CCW I like the Ruger better. As for the XD they are made in Croatia & imported by Springfield. They have a good reputation. I still like the Ruger better.
 
I'd say to focus on one gun or the other and then see where you end up.

I agree with AZRedhawk on this one. Focus on one gun that is the most important to you and then see what money you have left over.

In .357, I'd suggest finding a Ruger GP. Those are, in my opinion anyway, one of the top 2 best .357s out there.

As far as a .45, again I'm with AZ on this one. It's hard to pass up a Springfield Mil-Spec or Loaded model. Their GI model isn't bad either, but the Mil Spec and Loaded have some of the more "modern" 1911 features.
 
Hard to go wrong with a DW in the auto department, either...

Although it would take some luck, you might find a (barely) sub-$1000 DW .45 auto at a show. (Talking new here, not used; if you want used, they should be safely sub-$1000, but I don't see too many people selling their DW 1911's...)
 
I'd look for a guy selling a decent .357 and good .45 (whatever they happen to be), and If I liked both, I'd offer $1,000 for the pair. That's the deal I'd look for and I would be flexible as to brand, so long as I'm getting a good value and what I really want.
 
I'd buy the 357 revolver, then spent some money on a good CC rig, speedloaders, and plenty of practice ammo. Get another gun later when you have the money to outfit it the same. Just another way of looking at things.
 
Going to a gunshow this weekend. I have $1000 and want to buy a .357/.38 or 44 mag revolver and a .45ACP, which 2 should I look at. I'm going to look at all I can, but with limited funds I need some help narrowing down my choices.

Getting two new guns for $1000 may be difficult but let me give you something to contemplate. Whatever caliber combination you choose consider going all Ruger. For instance a SP-101 for the 38/357 and a P-Series for the 45 ACP. Look at the Ruger net site and do some planning. Depending on gun prices in your part of the world you could come close to your price goal.

Going this way will result in your owning two very, very strong, reliable handguns which will meet your needs for years.
 
I would say to find the best 1911 you can for 600ish bucks, buy some extra mags, a good cleaning kit and spend the rest on ammo.

A gun without ammo is just an expensive rock.
 
I'd buy the 357 revolver, then spent some money on a good CC rig, speedloaders, and plenty of practice ammo. Get another gun later when you have the money to outfit it the same. Just another way of looking at things.

This is a valid point to consider.

Let's say you fall in love with "X" revolver, and it's $550.

$550 is a fair price nowadays for a quality, new (or possibly even used, depending on make/model) .357 DA revolver.

You can't carry that revolver yet. You need a holster. Maybe more than 1... an outer waistband one, and an inner waistband one for concealment. Maybe you only need the IWB one... I always favor having one of each for my guns.

Anyway, that's about $100 worth of gunleather.

Add in a GOOD gunbelt and you've got another $50 liability. Maybe more, maybe less, depending on how picky you are. But you're looking for double layer bull hide.

You're now at $700.

A sixgunner needs a couple more things: Speedloaders and speedstrips. Speedloaders are circular and typically a bit tricky to carry, but are the ideal way to carry extra rounds if possible. Let's say you get 3 of those. That's $25. Then you want a couple speedstrips. These are flat carriers for your cartridges. Easier to conceal, faster than loose cartridges. Another $10 or so. Add in some other accessories related to that: speedloader carrier for your belt, perhaps? Round up the $35 to $50 to make math easy... You're at $750.

Your CCW class will probably cost $100 or so.

That leaves $150 for ammo. That's not a lot, frankly. .38 range fodder such as walmart winchester white box (WWB) will cost you about $40 for 100 rounds, I think. That's 300 rounds, then add in some .38+p or .357 defensive ammo @ $25 for about 20 rounds nowadays.

One gun, fully equipped from ground zero to carry-capable: $1000.

The next one gets cheaper since you have a belt and a CCW permit, but you still need holster(s) and ammo, and extra magazines if it's an automatic. A $700 .45 auto will really cost you about $1000 including a holster and a couple spare magazines, + spare mag holder(s) and ammo.

Yep. @ $1000 budget, with a goal of transitioning from "nothing to carry", you need to focus on equipping 1 gun all the way.

For a .357, I'd suggest a 3" barrel for a dedicated carry gun.

For a .45 auto, I'd suggest a 4" barrel (1911 Commander rather than Government profile, or 4" length in other non-1911 designs) rather than a longer barrel.

In the Ruger product line (a great bet), I'd suggest above all else, one of the "Six" series older guns. The Security Six or Speed Six. Slightly smaller frame than the new GP's, extremely well built. They were actually money losers for Ruger, they were that good. In their new products, I'd suggest the 5-shot SP101 with 3" barrel over the GP100 with the same length barrel. If you want an auto, the P345 seems worthy of looking at.
 
I don't disagree in principle with those saying focus for now on the one (whichever) gun, but as a few have indicated, it is quite possible to find both for the money you're talking about. The polymer choices mentioned are good ones. Of these I like the Springfield XD series and Ruger. Its harder to consider the two gun scenario for $1k if thinking of a decent new 1911, However, you might be able to sneak under the wire with a good used Springer Loaded (the less you have to invest to "improve" later vs the two GIs).

There are any number of good choices in .357, including those mentioned. Also look for a good used 3" K frame (6 shot mid-frame) pre lock Smith .357, model 65 fixed sight or Mod 66 adj sight. The 3" (vs the traditional standard 4") models can be hard to find, and often folks want a premium for....but strike a great carry compromise with only modest ballistics degradation--still not considered a snub, but just short enough to permit use for CCW, not normally a "'K's" forte or specialty. If .44 Mag, then a used S&W Mountain Gun 3" to 4." These are pricey new and so are not cheap used. I'd go with the ubiquitous .357 as far as overall flexibility (shooting .38s as well) , platform/configuration choices and ammo prices are concerned.
 
Like others have said, I'd recommend deciding on which type of gun you have the greatest need/desire and get that plus the accessories you will need.
 
first thing i would do is look somewhere else other than a gunshow... i haven't been able to find any kind of deal there... i have better luck at local pawn shops and gunbroker.com
 
I would go to the gun show and fondle as many guns as you can. Each person has their own unique tastes. However I would agree that most gun shows take advantage of the un-educated buyer and there usually are not many good deals out there.

Some of my tastes are the following: If you want a heck of a 44 mag I have really enjoyed my Smith & Wesson 629 44 Mag Hunter. I think I paid around $850 new for mine. Rugers are nice to I have one in 41 Mag.

If you want a 357 I really like the S&W 686 I picked up a couple years back. Great shooter and gives you the flexibility of shooting the cheaper 38 ammo.

For a semi auto and I own several. I would go with a Dan Wesson, in my opinion they are the most bang for the buck out there. I have both a pointman 7 and a classic bobtail in 45acp.

Most of all have fun with the process. Starting a collection is one of the best experiences that I have ever had.
 
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Thanks everybody, there are really alot of great opinions out there which give me multiple perspectives which is what I needed.

So far what I've found on my own is: I definitely think I would rather get the 2 guns first. I am not currently licensed to carry, in the process so I'm counting on like another 3 or 4 months before I can so I can more afford the holsters/ammo, etc in that time.

I know I will disappoint many by this statement, but I've handled a few 1911's (Sig, S&W, Para and others) ad they are not right for me. They are too big to conceal because they are full size, they are narrow but because of that, none of them feel right in my hand. They are beautiful to look at, but I don't think they are for me. For .45s the Glocks and I picked up a Kahr PM45 today and they felt great in my hand and were the size I am looking for when I do carry.

As far as the .357, the dealers I went to didn't have that great of a selection but the S&W was overall the best, the Rugers were OK, but you can tell that the machining isn't up to the S&W and there was only like 50 or maybe 75 $ difference. They are the perfect size, even over the 44mags. Even though I would love to have a 44 mag or 454 just for fun.

Again thanks to all of you. I hope there are some deals out there at the show for me. I'm hoping that cash will talk ;).
 
Hope you find something.
I have and find comfortable a S&W 686 and a CZ P-06, a compact railed semi.
The P-06 is a .40 caliber, the CZ P-01 is a 9mm, both are alloy framed.
 
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