please help: bore snake stuck in the barrel

I doubt the air compressor will work in this case. If we assume his bore is half an inch, it will have an area of 0.159 in². Multiplied by 125 PSI you get not quite 20 pounds of force. Less if the bore is smaller. I am sure he has already pulled with 20 pounds of force on the cord, and it didn't work. The air is useful when you have no other way get hold of the stuck ball, but he has a hold, and it is no help.

Saturated lye solution would eventually eat out the patch if it is cotton. Maybe not if it is synthetic. It will gradually react with the metal unless it is stainless. It could take weeks on a tight patch. Concentrated sulfuric acid will also etch the metal, but will dissolve a plug much faster. Whether you get ahead on etching with the acid or the lye depends on the speed with which the plug is broken down as the chemical of choice takes hydrogen and oxygen out of its structure in the form of water. I don't think strong chemicals are the way to go? I wouldn't trust either one.

You could theoretically put the thing in an oven and, beyond 451°F, the cellulose in fiber will burn. Unfortunately, the synthetics in the Bore Snake will also be melting and/or burning. Think noxious fumes and charred plastic goo stuck to the bore and in need of methylene chloride or similar strong solvent to remove. Not a pretty picture.

My personal approach would be to go to the hobby shop and buy some of those telescoping brass tubes, and pick a set that fit the bore closely on the outside and leave a 1/8" hole inside. Get the 1 foot lengths, not 3 foot, or you will have to cut it. Also buy a 3 foot length of 1/8" music wire from the hobby shop. They sell it for landing gear struts. If the outer tube isn't snug in the bore, add tape to the outside. Insert it from the rear. Wrap the outside of the rear of the tubing enough paper to center it in the back of the receiver (the bolt is out for all this). Now heat the tip of the music wire to red heat with a propane torch, and quickly shove the hot end down through the brass tube and spin the cool end of it back and forth between your palms for a few seconds. Repeating this will gradually char the back of the patch and drill a burned hole down until you get to the loop in the Bore Snake. When the loop is burned through, the Snake will come out. The patch will now be thinned out and should push out with a rod.

I thought of substituting a long 1/8" electrician's drill for the hot wire drill, but I think it will get tangled in the patch fibers and you will end up with a drill stuck in there with everything else. The hot wire will not carry enough specific heat to warm the bore enough to affect barrel temper any more than hot propellant gas does. It will also tend to cool on its way down the brass tubing, so you have to be quick about it. It will likely take several applications of the hot wire just to dry enough oil out to start drilling. The oil will act as a phase change material and cool the rod until it is driven off. The oil vapor may be flammable, so don't get the propane torch too near the smoke.

Good luck with it,
Nick
 
If I have this correctly, its stuck near the muzzle end?

If so, I would get a long sheet metal or wood screw and "screw" it into the patch, them grad screw with a pair of vise grips and pull it out.
 
Take your time!

I had a similar experience with an AR15 and a wire cleaning kit. Set the rifle on end, and fill with Kano Labs "Kroil", the oil that creaps. Allow this to soak through everything. I used a pencil torch, tweezers, and time to fight that bastard out. Carefull of any fumes.
 
I would chime in on the air compressor. Just soak the snake with oil and apply air to the far end. It will pop out of there pronto.
 
Believe it or not, I've seen this a number of times before. The one time that I could not remove it with means already mentioned here(oil, air press, etc.), I filed serrations in the end of a piece of sched. 40 pcv pipe, drilled opposing holes in opposite end, and inserted a long bolt for use as a "T" handle. With patience and pressure, using the serrated end as a saw, the obstruction will be removed. It took me cutting new serrations a number of times, and I had to deal with removing a small amount of pcv residue, but that was easily dealt with, and no damage to bore. Good Luck.
 
Bore Snake

Boys:
This is why I hate the blasted things - learn how to properly clean a rifle and quit going always for what's easy!
Harry B.
 
If it is stuck only a few inches from the one end, try threading a cork-screw into the mass and pulling out the way it came in.
 
Well since we hav'nt heard from you.

I hope you did not end up in the hospital like Das Boot and his safe caper.

Where is that guy (Das Boot), boy was that a good thread. Probably out there in the Keys with his boat, catching fish.:D

So if you didn't burn up your barrel or call Hoppe's what have you done?

The topic needs an answer to your request. Pppplllleeeeaaasssseee Go on with your story:D

HQ:rolleyes:
 
Unclenick, your post is a good candidate for a sticky thread - or would've been if this were a common problem. okievarmint, what you (and possibly others I might've missed) suggested was exactly what a gunsmith did - yes, I took it to a gunsmith. Well, kinda what he did. He just used a long threaded tool. He made $25 + a good laugh (not complaining though, it was well deserved)

Bottomline: I'm alive and well. The gun is alive and well. As a bonus, the bore snake is alive and well (that partially pays for the $25 ). As a microbonus, the filthy patch that liked it in the barrel so much it wouldn't get out, is alive and well and was given to me along with the rest of stuff. Just in case you are wondering - no, I'm not planning to use it again; it's going right into "memorabilia" closet.

Thank you, thank you, thank you for advice and sympathy, I love you all... yes, in a purely manly kind of way.

I'm sure to remember this: nothing that has "snake" in it's definition is fully harmless.

Regards! -Off to grab a beer to celebrate the bore liberation.

P.S. Harley Quinn - who's Das Boot? what happened to him?
 
Das Boot

Samoand,
If you have about a 1/2 of an hour you won't get back, find that safe thread by him it is hilarious. It went on for months and then was closed do to a lack of good faith. It has some real good humor, you will laugh, you will cry..LOL

HQ:D :D

PS: Glad to hear it worked out, good judgement on your part, you are to be commended.
 
did he open the darn safe??!!

: ))))))))))))))))))))))))))))) I didn't buy getting in hospital part though, it was too well timed following HiPowering's post. Thanks for a good laugh, it was hysterical... and shows power of collective thinking, there were few interesting ideas.
 
All of this "soaking with oil" will only make the fibers swell and tighten the plug.
Find a piece of steel (brass would be better) rod that is smaller than bore diameter, chamfer the sharp edge, and drive the stuck snake out from the other end. Use light taps with a very small hammer.
The long wood screw trick might work, too.
Don't use oil, don't use chemicals. If these methods don't work, take the gun to a good gunsmith.
Bill
 
Gunsmith and Unclenick

Hi,
I believe the gunsmith pretty much did, what Unclenick had mentioned.

Good job.

It is nice to hear/see some taking the instructions given by qualified replys, and getting it done correctly.

HQ:cool:
 
well... now I'm getting a case of "but i could do it, i swear!" virus acting up :)

actually, given the circumstances I couldn't: I'm about to move, having limited access to my tools and setup, and putting more value to this firearm than to the virus.

Still. What happened to the damn safe???!!! : ))))))
 
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