please help: bore snake stuck in the barrel

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samoand

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no kidding. Folks, I did something very foolish: used a bigger patch on the end of a bore snake than my barrel could swallow. It's stuck at the very first inch - just far enough to be unreachable from the closer end. Stuck well, no amount of pulling force short of breaking the snake moves it.

any ideas what to do? Is there a solvent that would dissolve clothing yet not affect metal?

Thanks in advance, I feel desperate and stupid. If anyone feels like chastising me, don't bother: I'm doing my share on this end.
 
The only thing I can think of is to flood the bore with lubricant. Trying to pull the 'snake back out the other way might be bad. Breaking it might be bad. Adding a bunch of lube may reduce friction enough to make it through.

You might want to wait for a few more replies, though.

And thanks for the "what not to do" ;)
 
Bore snakes have a bronze brush imbedded in them. If its stuck at that point, you can soak with copper solvent to eat the brush away.
 
Bore snakes have a bronze brush imbedded in them. If its stuck at that point, you can soak with copper solvent to eat the brush away.
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no, not copper. It's not even the snake itself, it's the clothing I added to it's loop at the end.
 
What type of shooter is it

If you can come in from the other end add the lubricant,and push it back out the same way it came in, would be the best bet. Dowel about the same size as the barrel, smidgen smaller. Go to a welding shop and get a brass rod.

Patch is causing the problem and the amount of friction etc. pour in the oil and let it saturate.

If that does not work you can try the copper desolver, but that isn't something I would do. Only thing then is to cut off the rest and push thru with a dowel.

HQ
 
it's an 26" A-bolt; can't use dowel from the other side: the snake is fully in, stuck by the end (loop). Already tried dowel, it won't go more than an inch due to the rest of the snake being in the barrel. Ouch.
 
I was cleaning my match tuned 308 Garand, getting it ready for long term storeage as I'm now shooting a AR. I took the rifle off the stock and decided to clean the gas cly which can not be removed. I lost a patch down by the gas hole. Nothing I did would remove the patch. I finaly got it out with a paper clip with a hook bent into it. While I was fooling with that, a buddy of mine was looking for his Black power bullet puller. This a screw assy which goes on the ram rod (normal cleaning rod thread size) and is screwed into the lead bullet so you can pull it out. I was thinking this set up might work in this case as well as long as you were careful. Bullet puller might need some work done to it so it would fit the bore.
 
Don't shoot it

Sorry not funny!

Boy that is getting tougher to figure out. Call the maker "Hoppe" they might have a solution to your problem.
:(

HQ
 
more news: tried to use open fire inside the barrel, was quickly reminded that flow of oxigen is essential. REEEally don't want to resort to power tools or power chemicals, I like this rifle.

Let's see if leaving it soak with oil overnight help.

With thin part of the snake hanging off the muzzle, it now looks like a fancy whip.

Harley Quinn: that was exactly my first thought.

Any chemists out there, something that ruins fabric and doesn't affect metal? liquid plumber perhaps?
 
might work

a strong caustic (sodium hydroxide) like a drain cleaner might work, if it does, besure to THOROUGHLY rinse with water afterwards. Then dry competely and oil. Take stock off first. Caustic will eat aluminium! be careful. Do not use an acid, acid will eat the steel. Of course, if you soak the patch with nitric acid, and then let it dry out, it will self ignite after a while.:eek:

A black powder patch worm (not thebullet puller screw) might work also, this thing looks like a pair of hooks that screws on the end of the cleaning rod. You may be able to dig into the cloth and pull it out, or tear pieces off until you can pull it out.

Good luck.
 
samoand - I believe that if you just continually soak it w/ something like clp for the best portion of a day it'll be able to slowly & gently be "Tugged" at & out. Really, good luck w/ it. Also, call the manufacturer; it's not likely your the first to have made that mistake..!

Eric Howland
Savannah, GA.
 
Nor the last

Just had to get it squeaky clean huh, LOL.

Give Hoppe a chance to tell you, in fact they had a cleaner that if you left it in a bore long enough it desolved the stuff we are talking about.

Any good chemist will have the answer.

There are some acids that won't hurt the gun out there, but I am not sure which would be the best. Regular bleach will eat it, the patch (cotton right?).

HQ
 
Snake stuck in bore...how to remove

Find or fit a wooden dowel that is snug in the bore. Remove stock, this gets messy. Fill the bore with oil. Fit the dowel to the bore and whack it with a hammer to hydraulically force the obstruction out. If the oil leaks past the obstruction, use thicker oil or axle lube.
 
If all else fails, get a mild steel rod that will fit into a drill but is smaller than the bore. Take a piece of soft steel tubing that will just fit inside the bore and cut saw teeth in one end. Set the teeth when complete so they will face slightly inward and cannot easily touch the inside of the bore. Solder the "holesaw" to the end of the mild steel rod and chuck it up in a drill. File and sand the O.D. smooth and coat with grease.Saw on the cloth patch plug until it is ripped out. Remove pieces of cloth as they tear loose or they can jam the saw in the bore. Careful is as careful does. You might be able to saw the patch plug with a homemade brass saw made as described above, which would be safer in the bore. If all else fails, this will work. Tear out enough of the patch to let the boresnake pull out. You must be careful though, as sloppy usage can ruin the bore.
 
This sounds like something I would do. I?m always trying to improve upon things to make them work better; most times I make it better, sometimes I get outcomes like this. Good luck!
 
bore snake

Dear Shooter:
Understand your frustration but I do not like bore snakes!
The guys have told you about all the remedies there are but I prefer the bronze rod, after soaking the whole thing in oil so you don't get rust.
You may really have to give the rod a good smack to get this started and I would disdain any chemical solution!
At Douglass bbls, they use a stainless steel rod for each caliber and PUSH THROUGH cotton patches to clean bbls! If I use a bronze bristle brush I make sure there are no steel windings in the brush and PASS IT CLEAR THROUGH the bbl! Then you PULL it back through entirely and NEVER use a stainless steel brush on anything but a rusty military bbl!
The bore snake business is a sloppy, easy way to "clean" a bbl - however it does little cleaning. I use a soft brass wound bristle brush as described and patches opushed through when needed - bore snales if allowed to get damp can permenantly rust and ruin a bbl. - I don't own onw!
Harry B.
 
before you go poring drain cleaner onto your gun, do you have access to an air compressor? a rubber tipped air chuck will form a tight seal at the barrel. 100psi (popbably won't need that much) will blow it right out the way it came in.
 
I like the method recomended by Hawken 50, it would be the least dammaging approach. Beg, borrow, or rent a small air compressor then find a blower tip, the kind used in an automotive shop to blast out carburators, fuel lines etc., if you can find one with a rubber tip all the better. Pull on the snake from one end while appying air pressure to the other end should work. Be sure to ware eye protection, all that oil and stuff you put in is going to come out all at once. Let us know how you make out.

Good luck,

Rich
 
i've used an air compressor to blow patched round balls out of my muzzle loader by blowing thru the touch hole. be warned, when it pops out it will be moving pretty fast. also, i'd try to blow it out the way it went in, just to avoid it getting stuck again halfway down the barrel.
 
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