Please answer new gun receipt question

Still seems to good to be true....
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Well IMO, yes and no.

If I were the gunshop owner, more than likely I'd know what it would cost me in atty. fees if this issue, even though an apparent honest mistake, was to be pursued legally . Let alone the cost of my reputation as a gunstore and the fallout with BATF.

Four - Five hundred dollars wouldn't touch my expense's.

Also, as the shop owner, you could bet I'd find out how this mistake happened and insure it didn't happen again.

The gunshop in my above post marks all their used guns with a certain color sticker along with a tag.
 
several years ago I had the exact opposite happen to me. I bought a slightly used gun, and when I went to pick it up, they had switched it with a new gun. Price was only slightly different and he told me to forget about it.
 
If I were the gunshop owner, more than likely I'd know what it would cost me in atty. fees if this issue, even though an apparent honest mistake, was to be pursued legally . Let alone the cost of my reputation as a gunstore and the fallout with BATF.
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It is exactly what you state that made many of us think there was something "fishy" going on. That is, the dealer banking on the assumption that if he gives the buyer a great deal, then the buyer will keep his mouth shut for fear of losing his windfall.

BATF doesn't need the cooperation of the buyer to prosecute a dealer for any violations. That is, they don't need a complaining party to initiate an investigation or prosecution. If the dealer's intent was for the discount to keep the OP quiet, the OP did not remain silent and the dealer still honored the offer. Therefore, I don't see where there was any quid pro quo between the buyer and seller. Even if the discount was intended to buy the OP's silence, the OP would not be legally complicit in any alleged wrongdoing by the dealer even if he accepted the offer.
 
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Glad you got it resolved, but the whole situation seems weirder than ever now. I wonder what would have happened had your deputy friend not been involved? This whole situation seems a bit "hinkey" to me...
 
as i stated i am not going to defame anyone or their business. If it was a mistake then great its over and i was compensated. I went to get the gun after work today but forgot to get my reg. as i forgot that seeing its a different gun i needed a new reg.

They were very helpful and its a dead issue to me. I walked in and asked for the supervisor. he took me into the back and he had the gun in a box showing me everything that was in there. He also had me do a physical inventory on it to show it was scratch free and all new. I will be going back this friday after work to get it seeing i was a dope and didnt stop to think about getting the reg.
 
Even a new gun is not, in most cases, unfired. Some states require that a handgun be fired at the factory to provide a cartridge case for their computerized ID system. European makers are required by law to fire a proof round and many fire more to test function; some US makers do the same thing, and most fire at least one "proof" round.

So every gun you buy is, by some peoples' standards, "used." I am with Kraigwy on this one. As long as the gun looks new by every reasonable standard, it is new.

I bought a new car last week; it had 9 miles on the odometer. So it was used and I am going to demand my money back. ;)

Jim
 
I know a man who once bought a "Brand New In The Box" Colt Gold Cup. Box was in excellent shape, all the manuals and even the warranty card was still there.

He went to the range and another shooter saw it. The conversation went like this:

"Hey, that looks like the Gold Cup I used to own".

"No, I just bought it new at ________ gun shop."

"Well, that's who I traded mine too."

So a trip to the other guys house and a check of his book that he logged his gun info into (in case they got stolen) revealed that he had in fact owned the Gold Cup. It wasn't new, and had in fact been shot numerous times but meticulously cleaned and maintained.

End result when the store owner was confronted was a 'free' Gold Cup :)

It probably happens more than we like to think.

I was in the same store (before I knew of the Gold Cup story) in the 90's when S&W was coming out with new model seemingly weekly.

He showed me one of the newest I had just read an article on and was interested in (don't remember which model exactly).

Store owner said "It's brand new. I ordered it as a demo gun for the local PD. They tested it at the range last week, but decide not to adopt it for a duty gun".

I asked "If it's been a demo gun it's not exactly brand new is it?"

He got an embarrassed look on his face and put the gun back in the case. I didn't go back in there again.
 
We haven't had any response's on this thread from any gunstore owners as to how easy this could happen or what their thought on the whole thing is...

Soooo.... calling.... WildwhatsayyouAlaska!
 
Up & up; $$$, online sources...

For firearms, I'd only deal with a gun shop or FFL dealer who had a good business rep and/or had a clean, well run store.
I went by a local military-police supply shop that had a few popular brands like 5.11 & Safariland. I wasn't dressed like Joe Ragbag or looked sketchy but as I looked around the 2 male sales clerks did not say #%*+ to me. I've had the same type of treatment in other "high speed" military surplus & gun shops that later closed down, ;) .
If a handgun is a demo or "LNIB"(like new), the dealer should be upfront about it. I had a sales mgr "wheel & deal" with me in 2009 and I ended up with a NIB unfired PX4 C model 9mm for the exact same retail price as a LE demo. I paid $500.00 which is a good price for a new PX4 full size 9mm.

If the gun shop or retail-outdoor/military store is giving you a hassle, shop online or go to places that have more sense, customer service.

CF
 
Even a new gun is not, in most cases, unfired. Some states require that a handgun be fired at the factory to provide a cartridge case for their computerized ID system. European makers are required by law to fire a proof round and many fire more to test function; some US makers do the same thing, and most fire at least one "proof" round.

So every gun you buy is, by some peoples' standards, "used." I am with Kraigwy on this one. As long as the gun looks new by every reasonable standard, it is new.
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I disagree, both with your conclusion and your definition of "used" (extending that logic to cars, for example, every "new" car in the world would in fact be "used" and this eliminates an otherwise useful distinction in the language). In addition to it not being what the OP bargained for, and it generally being illegal (accident or not, same laws apply), it can also complicate warrantee issues (depending on the make and age) as well as recall notices and so forth. This is all academic now that the OP has reached an amicable solution, but the point that anything advertised as "New" must actually be new - for legal and moral reasons - is nevertheless important regardless of physical condition (LNIB is a fair way to sell such a gun, and the price difference between that and NIB tends to be very small).
 
Whenever I buy a gun in sunny Florida the shop puts the s/n of the gun on the paper work so I don't see how these switcheroos occur. Also, as a collector most of the stuff I buy is old as hell and one of a kind so there's not likely to be any imposters in the back. That said, I always take a picture with my phone when I buy a gun so I can lust over it during the waiting period. Maybe that's why these things don't happen to me. I'm such a gun wh*re I'll buy one from the biggest as*hole that ever drew a breath if it's what I want and the price is right.:D
 
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