Pistol laws from 40 years ago - help!

I will be doggoned. I know people who live there, and have had pistol conversations as they have moved into the hobby in the last few years, and neither of the two at any point mentioned this. they only talked about the background check.
 
Well that's pretty bad. There are several states that require permits issued by law enforcement. I believe Hawaii, N.Y. not sure of the others though.

tipoc
 
I can't say any more from fear of being censored and censured.

TFL is notorious for restricting freedom of speech when someone points out the obvious about a problem created by politics.
 
Well, in all truth... we can probably all name places that have laws like that....

New York, Chicago, California, Michigan, District of Columbia ..... the most restrictive places I know of.

For the rest of the country, most of us have never heard of regsitering any gun when we purchased it from anyone. FFL"s require a 4473 form and are required to maintain it in their records, that's it.

You could not buy a gun here at any Gun Show nor from any dealer without a NICS check. Period. I'ld guarantee you that one.

My point is, probably no one can answer your question that is not extremely familiar with all of the in's and out's of the laws of Michigan, so you really should consult someone there or the NRA.
 
In California you fill out the 4473 form. There is a 10 day waiting period and then you pick up the gun. There is no permit required.

However there is a Basic Handgun Safety Card. To legally own a handgun in Ca. you have to first pass a short test on safety, gun handling, and ammunition. Once you pass a card is issued. It used to be good for life but must now be renewed every 5 years.

tipoc
 
http://www.michigan.gov/msp/0,1607,7-123-1591_3503_4654-225113--,00.html

Purchasing and Registering a Pistol in Michigan

In Michigan, a person "shall not purchase, carry, or transport a pistol in this state without first having obtained a license for the pistol," as prescribed in MCL 28.422. These licenses shall be obtained by the local police agency. If the city, township, or village does not have an organized police agency, the license shall be obtained by the county sheriff department.

There is an exception for a person licensed in Michigan to carry a concealed pistol. He or she must obtain a Pistol Sales Record (RI-060) any time he or she purchases or otherwise acquires a pistol, pursuant to MCL 28.422a.

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"Pistol License" -- "purchase, carry, or transport." That would include ANY form of "possession" be it a "loan" or any other "transfer."

My next question would be: Is this license a permanent requirement for possession of the handgun? Or is it a "permit to obtain" ???

The obvious solution would be to obtain the CPL / CCW. Concealed Carry Permit. But then the constabulary is not registering the handgun. They're registering YOU. Moreover, you're STILL required to obtain a Pistol Sales Record, for any transfer, acquisition.

Sounds to me like Michigan is overdue for an insurrection. :eek:
 
Update

Well I got the pistol back from my older brother and I also found out I never sold it to my younger brother. How it went from me to my older brother, neither of us can remember how. But my older brother remembers seeing a green "safety certificate" with my name on it - but doesn't know where he put that card.

So I know that 42 years ago, I had it registered in my name in the town I lived in at the time. My issue now is I don't have my green safety certificate I was issued back in 1968. I'd like to go back there to see if they'll look in the archives and give me a copy if it's available. Awhile back we ran a search on the serial number at the police station where I live now and nothing came up.

I did register it once but don't have the proof - just wondering if the government will haul me away . . .
 
Mr. Collins,

I am not a lawyer, but I think you should go to your local Sheriff and let them know you have a pistol you bought back in 1968. You have since lost your green card and require a copy of it to keep legal.

Then the Sheriff will get lazy, as they often do, and let you register your pistol on a new Pistol Registration Form and you're done.

That's what I would do, if it were me.

As an interesting side note:

When I first started shooting, as a little kid, my Father bought all three of us boys a Chipmunk .22 single shot. Each of us had our own, and each one was registered as a PISTOL in Michigan. It was the rifle I first learned to shoot with, and it still sits in the safe today. It has never been transfered to me as a pistol, since I moved out of Michigan, there is no need. It's a rifle that falls into Michigan Law as a pistol. Figure that one out!
 
What about out of state visitors to Michigan?
Obviously, they wouldn't have the required registration.
No handguns allowed to someone say vacationing there?
Is this registration requirement for long guns, too?
How do people from out of state, wishing to attend an organized competition, like a USPSA or IDPA match, deal with this?
 
g.willikers said:
What about out of state visitors to Michigan?
Obviously, they wouldn't have the required registration.
No handguns allowed to someone say vacationing there?
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No. Only residents of Michigan need to have handguns registered.
g.willikers said:
Is this registration requirement for long guns, too?
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Technically NO. However, Michigan Law states that any gun less than 30" overall length be registered as a HANDGUN. It does NOT jive with Federal Law, so there are some shotguns and rifles that by Michigan Law are PISTOLS, and by federal law are rifles or shotguns.
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How do people from out of state, wishing to attend an organized competition, like a USPSA or IDPA match, deal with this?
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If you have a Concealed Weapons Permit from your home state, you can carry it in Michigan. Michigan has reciprocity with ALL STATES. If not, you just carry the gun unloaded in your trunk, and ammo in a separate part of the vehicle.
 
I just went through this in Michigan

Hi, first time post but I have been lurking for a while.

The pistol purchasing license is only good for 10 days from when you get it at you local police department. The handgun is then registered with the state. But I am not registered with the state other than if they look up the serial number my name would come up as the current owner. The permit is free and the background check is done at the same time. I am sure with a computerized database that if they wanted to, they could create a database of owners; but that is currently NOT ALLOWED. But if they wanted too....:rolleyes:

The safety checks are a thing of the past, I think since 2008. When I first moved to Michigan I had to bring my micro Buckmark to the police station and present it for a safety check.

The safety check and picking a purchase license for my M&P 9 was easy with no hastle.
 
I don't know the Michigan law now, but at one time they had gun registration disguised as a "safety inspection." The "inspection" was supposed to prevent sale of dangerous guns, but few officers acting as "inspectors" had any idea of what they were doing.

From what I have been told, that law, like most "gun control" laws, had a hidden agenda, never discussed but well understood by the police and politicians. A gun brought in by a white person was automatically "safe"; a gun brought in by a black person was automatically "unsafe." Nuff sed.

Jim
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And that is exactly why all "gun control" laws should be stricken from the books.

Just make it a capital crime to commit an armed robbery, rape, murder, etc and swing the guilty from a tree quick.
 
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