Pietta and Uberti
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We're back to Ronald Reagan; "Well....."
Mykeal,
The same guy at the gun show who would not come off of his Pietta prices, who told me that ASM never made anything for CVA, who didn't know that the Remington Pocket is refered to by the year 1863, who didn't actually have all of the parts under his table that he said he had, who never showed me the boxes for his "brand new" Piettas, told me that "Uberti quality has declined significantly since they were bought out by Pietta."
It is notable that he was trying to sell Piettas (Everybody knows that Uberti's are junk since Pietta bought them out.).
He had George Carlin's ("Nail two boards together") attitude: "If I take a good looking 1851 Colt or 1858 Remington to a gun show and slap any price on it, some schlub will buy it."
I didn't buy his BS or his pistols.
The reason I was asking was to determine is there was any shred of accuracy in anything this guy said.
Mykeal,
The same guy at the gun show who would not come off of his Pietta prices, who told me that ASM never made anything for CVA, who didn't know that the Remington Pocket is refered to by the year 1863, who didn't actually have all of the parts under his table that he said he had, who never showed me the boxes for his "brand new" Piettas, told me that "Uberti quality has declined significantly since they were bought out by Pietta."
It is notable that he was trying to sell Piettas (Everybody knows that Uberti's are junk since Pietta bought them out.).
He had George Carlin's ("Nail two boards together") attitude: "If I take a good looking 1851 Colt or 1858 Remington to a gun show and slap any price on it, some schlub will buy it."
I didn't buy his BS or his pistols.
The reason I was asking was to determine is there was any shred of accuracy in anything this guy said.
I'm told that Uberti is wholly owned by Benelli, (sorry wrong ) and I do not believe Uberti's quality has slipped at all.
Just ask the thounds of SASS shooters - they shoot more in a month than most people shoot in a year.
Do you shoot SASS? It's a lot of fun and everybody shoots "cowboy guns".
Look at: http://www.sassnet.com/
and here: http://www.curtrich.com/captbaylorsrangercamp.html
I shot SASS using a Colt SAA in .45 Long Colt and a Ruger Vaquero in .45 Long Colt.
Both are great guns, but the Uberti is a fine gun too and you'll see a lot of them at these shoots.
They have SASS shoots every where in the USA - go visit one - they welcome new people and watch them shoot - they usually train new shooters at every shoot and at some of them you can buy a box of shells and try out several brands of guns.
It's a great sport.
Just ask the thounds of SASS shooters - they shoot more in a month than most people shoot in a year.
Do you shoot SASS? It's a lot of fun and everybody shoots "cowboy guns".
Look at: http://www.sassnet.com/
and here: http://www.curtrich.com/captbaylorsrangercamp.html
I shot SASS using a Colt SAA in .45 Long Colt and a Ruger Vaquero in .45 Long Colt.
Both are great guns, but the Uberti is a fine gun too and you'll see a lot of them at these shoots.
They have SASS shoots every where in the USA - go visit one - they welcome new people and watch them shoot - they usually train new shooters at every shoot and at some of them you can buy a box of shells and try out several brands of guns.
It's a great sport.
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What has happened between Pietta and Uberti is that the Pietta guns were once poorer in quality. They have re-tooled their plant and now the Pietta guns are, in my opinion, superior internally to the Ubertis with the Ubertis still maintaining an edge in appearance.
For all practical purposes they are equally good guns.
For all practical purposes they are equally good guns.
Uberti is owned by Beretta not Benneli. There have been some reports of Uberti's not being the quality they were. Around 2000 Pietta acquired new CNC machinery putting their quality on an even keel if not a cut above Uberti in metal work. Uberti finishes might be a tad better than Pietta but Pietta finishes, especially their CCH is not bad at all.
Yup
HH,
I think I remember reading of the history you just described, perhaps in one of your posts.
I would not be the least bit surprised to learn that in terms of annual volume Pietta puts out more units than Uberti. That is not good and it is not bad its just a thing. My last Pietta purchase was the Griswold and Gunnison when it was on sale about six months ago (Cabelas). I think it was the cheapest pistol on the block but it seems fine to me.
HH,
I think I remember reading of the history you just described, perhaps in one of your posts.
I would not be the least bit surprised to learn that in terms of annual volume Pietta puts out more units than Uberti. That is not good and it is not bad its just a thing. My last Pietta purchase was the Griswold and Gunnison when it was on sale about six months ago (Cabelas). I think it was the cheapest pistol on the block but it seems fine to me.
olmontanaboy
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I agree, I've got em both.
Two different mfgrs. I've a new Pietta .44 casehardened and all the metal except for the trigger guard is great. Planes are smooth and unrippled, bluing is dark and durable, lockup is rock solid and in line, casehardening is beautiful, fit and finish of everything is good and tight - as good as I've seen on my ROA, and that is excellent.
Accuracy is dependent on the load. With 25gr fffg Swiss bp and swaged .454 Hornady round balls, the beast shoots in less than 2" at 25 yds. with my wobbly weaver combat stance and grip. With 35 grains of fffg swiss, it spreads vertically to about 5"x2". I haven't tried it with conicals yet because I haven't cast any.
Accuracy is dependent on the load. With 25gr fffg Swiss bp and swaged .454 Hornady round balls, the beast shoots in less than 2" at 25 yds. with my wobbly weaver combat stance and grip. With 35 grains of fffg swiss, it spreads vertically to about 5"x2". I haven't tried it with conicals yet because I haven't cast any.
I like both brands. I have a 1862 police made by Pietta about 11 years ago that I have had to tinker with on and off but it shoots like a dream. I handled one at Cabela's a few months ago and the difference btw rvolvers was like night and day. Very well made and you can see the improvement over the last decade in Pietta. I also have a few Ubertis that I bought through Buffalo Arms(they get theirs via Cimarron Arms). I read in THR site that Cimarron receives Ubertis as parts and assembles them in Texas. Is this true? Anyway, I have really liked the quality and look if my Ubertis...although I think they could tone down the finish on the grips. Whew! They look very orange! So there is my 2 cents. Good Luck All.
madcratebuilder
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Yup!, I guess it is one way to keep the cost down, even Ruger is doing it. Even the real thing is a very thin layer and well come off with just steel wool.
Not true. Cimarron is only an importer. However, according to them, they have their own inspectors at the Uberti plant that pick through the guns so that QC 'should' be a little better. Personally, I like dealing with Cimarron and feel their customer service is pretty good.
I was under the impression that Uberti's have authentic color case hardening. It's just not as vivid as Colt or Turnbull. The Beretta's are definitely fake.