The point of most people not doing it well was made many times with some of our top shooters . We did travel to other clubs and do the military rifle matches . None of them were even close to our shooting level .My favorite was when we listened to the two local pros stories before the match . After the match our 7 shooter all destroyed their club records . Before the match we asked them why they used such large targets and told them that 10 shots per target was going to be impossible to score . They could not score our target well because ours were a ragged hole .