Pesky Groundhogs!
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mrawesome22
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I too am uncomfortable with laser trajectory, minimum recoil, and terrific accuracy!
Oh wait, I misread your post.
How's that saying go? You can't reason with the unreasonable? LOL
My 2 cents: I've hunted those pain-in-the-ass varmints for years, using the 17 HMR for short range and no wind and a .243 for longer range. What I've found is early morning and near dark is the best time. You've scouted the area for holes, so you know where they "should" be. Don't think you can walk up near the hole and not be busted. If you have too, take baby steps very slowly. It's best to stalk/walk behind them and not in the front or to the sides. I've waited as long as two hours for a shot after scaring one back into his hole. I've also crawled in high alfalfa and waited for the perfect shot on one hiding in a lumber pile. I've shot two in trees, they were about 10 feet off the ground. I also got surprised from behind one time. I was sitting on the corner field @25 yards from a known active hole. A groundhog walked right behind me and stopped, about 15 feet away. I was froze. As I turned my head very-very slowly, he eventually walked around me in a wide arch and tried to enter his hole from the side. BANG! They are not stupid creatures. But when they screw up...we win.
Full-choke
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Awesome22,
Sorry if I sound kind of prejudice to the round but I am. Maybe it is just that the Remington ADL is the only 22-250 I have ever shot but I don't like it. My stepdad swears by it but I can't stand it. I learned to shoot groundhogs on that gun and have put nearly 100 rounds down the tube, and I continue to like it less and less everytime I shoot it.
So sorry, not a fan of the 22-250, and yes you can reason with me, I however have already reasoned it out as an option...If I liked the 250, I would have punched holes in these groundhogs with it long ago.
Ryan
Sorry if I sound kind of prejudice to the round but I am. Maybe it is just that the Remington ADL is the only 22-250 I have ever shot but I don't like it. My stepdad swears by it but I can't stand it. I learned to shoot groundhogs on that gun and have put nearly 100 rounds down the tube, and I continue to like it less and less everytime I shoot it.
So sorry, not a fan of the 22-250, and yes you can reason with me, I however have already reasoned it out as an option...If I liked the 250, I would have punched holes in these groundhogs with it long ago.
Ryan
We've got a couple of conexus about 200 yards from one of our fields. I've found what works best for me, is to set up on top of it overwatching the field. Laying in the prone on a shooting pad with my bipod on my AR. Just lay there for a couple of hours either early morning or just before dark and have fun. Like said before, find out what holes they are useing the most and overwatch them. It's a long process with prairie dogs, but it sure is fun. Sometimes, i'll take the 7mm out just fun.
mrawesome22
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O.K. I'll try to reason with you.
What's not to like about the 22-250Rem for g-hogs? It's just about perfect for that purpose.
I don't understand how you could hate any cartridge. They all have a place and the .22-250Rem reigns supreme in the varmint catagory.
Why "can't you stand it"? LOL Is it an ugly cartridge? You don't like the smell of it? LOL Did it spit on you? LOL
You're not making much sense buddy.
What's not to like about the 22-250Rem for g-hogs? It's just about perfect for that purpose.
I don't understand how you could hate any cartridge. They all have a place and the .22-250Rem reigns supreme in the varmint catagory.
Why "can't you stand it"? LOL Is it an ugly cartridge? You don't like the smell of it? LOL Did it spit on you? LOL
You're not making much sense buddy.
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Art Eatman
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When I first got into centerfire, back in 1950, my uncle had a Gebby barrel on a Mauser action, a "Varminter". Remington made a trivial mod to this necked-down .250 Savage and brought it out as the ".22-250". Basically, the Swift and the Varminter are still the most popular high-power .22s, for all that they're older than I am.
To a great extent, it's six of one, half-dozen of the other. They'll both push 50-grain pills to around 3,800 or a tad better, and in my own experience are equally capable of tight groups. 3/8 MOA for five shots is not unreasonable.
In the FWIW department, Phil Sharpe lists a load for the .22 Savage Hi-Power: A 40-grain bullet and a bunch of 2400, for 3,900 ft/sec. Look up the introductory date of the cartridge...
, Art
To a great extent, it's six of one, half-dozen of the other. They'll both push 50-grain pills to around 3,800 or a tad better, and in my own experience are equally capable of tight groups. 3/8 MOA for five shots is not unreasonable.
In the FWIW department, Phil Sharpe lists a load for the .22 Savage Hi-Power: A 40-grain bullet and a bunch of 2400, for 3,900 ft/sec. Look up the introductory date of the cartridge...
, Artmrawesome22
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I know Scorch LOL I just don't understand how someone could "hate" a cartridge.
As Spock would say "It's highly illogical."
I like any round that goes bang when I pull the trigger
LOL I just don't understand how someone could "hate" a cartridge.As Spock would say "It's highly illogical."
I like any round that goes bang when I pull the trigger
mrawesome22
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I'll get back on track to the OP.
I've been "hunting" g-hogs for a long time. It's not hard. They're not smart. I'm talking about woodchucks. As I'm sure the OP is since he's from Ohio as I am.
Set up a couple hundred yards away from the holes and wait. When they come out, shoot them. Simple as that. At 200 yards, you could do a rain dance and they'll just go about their business. It's my experience that they have poor vision.
When they do come out, they all come out. If you have a big field that has recently had it's first cut for instance, they all pop out at they same time and you have multiple targets. Once you shoot, they all go running back to their holes and 5 minutes later, they're back out like nothing happened.
No camo or sneaking is needed. Just a comfortable chair, a lot of cold beverages, a bipod, and a rifle.
I've been "hunting" g-hogs for a long time. It's not hard. They're not smart. I'm talking about woodchucks. As I'm sure the OP is since he's from Ohio as I am.
Set up a couple hundred yards away from the holes and wait. When they come out, shoot them. Simple as that. At 200 yards, you could do a rain dance and they'll just go about their business. It's my experience that they have poor vision.
When they do come out, they all come out. If you have a big field that has recently had it's first cut for instance, they all pop out at they same time and you have multiple targets. Once you shoot, they all go running back to their holes and 5 minutes later, they're back out like nothing happened.
No camo or sneaking is needed. Just a comfortable chair, a lot of cold beverages, a bipod, and a rifle.
Full-choke
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Okay, so obviously this has gotten blown way out of proportion. I dislike the round and that is all there is to it.
We don't need to get in a stupid tussle over it and honestly, the argument is stupid in itself. Call me a stubborn mule, but I have made up my mind and there is nothing you are going to do to change it. I have held, I have aimed and I have fired, several times over...and I still have the same feelings about it. So please, just drop it as it is not something that needs to be argued about...
We don't need to get in a stupid tussle over it and honestly, the argument is stupid in itself. Call me a stubborn mule, but I have made up my mind and there is nothing you are going to do to change it. I have held, I have aimed and I have fired, several times over...and I still have the same feelings about it. So please, just drop it as it is not something that needs to be argued about...
castnblast
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O.K...I'm joining the war too. I love the cartridge. If you ever want to give me the 700 ADL in 22-250, I'll GLADLY take it off your hands. Maybe he's only shot factory ammo...
Full-choke
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Okay, once again, why are we arguing?!?! There is no war, there is no effort to try and persuade me of a 22-250. I don't have the money to go buy one, I wouldn't if I had the money so lay off. I have shot it, I don't like it...end of the flippin' story.
Also, go back to the original thread please, it explains a lot. I believe my words were "I have run into trouble" as well as "They are extremely smart and I can't get close enough to take a good shot." Oh, and don't forget the most important one "I DON"T HAVE A GOOD LONG DISTANCE VARMINT RIFLE!" Why are we still arguing about this? Are we that immature?
I didn't post to start a war, I'm entitled to my opinion. I posted to see if anyone had some different tactics in trying to get in to the hogs close enough to take them with my 17 HMR. So, if you don't have any advice on that, please don't complain...
Ryan
Also, go back to the original thread please, it explains a lot. I believe my words were "I have run into trouble" as well as "They are extremely smart and I can't get close enough to take a good shot." Oh, and don't forget the most important one "I DON"T HAVE A GOOD LONG DISTANCE VARMINT RIFLE!" Why are we still arguing about this? Are we that immature?
I didn't post to start a war, I'm entitled to my opinion. I posted to see if anyone had some different tactics in trying to get in to the hogs close enough to take them with my 17 HMR. So, if you don't have any advice on that, please don't complain...
Ryan