Paypal anti-gun?

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GaryO7

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I got this blurb from Guns America this morning. What say you? What are our other options? Thanks...

"Paypal is not an option. Please do not attempt to use it to pay for or to get paid for GunsAmerica sales. Paypal is violently anti-gun and has suspended and frozen thousands of legitimate gun seller accounts over the years. If Paypal catches you taking or making a payment for a gun, your account will be shut off immediately and both parties’ accounts will be frozen for at least 60 days. Any money in those accounts will be unavailable for that time, and sometimes you have to jump through several hoops to get your money out at all."
 
Yes, they are anti-gun. Have been for a very long time if not forever.

They have closed people's accounts for doing totally legal transfers. Do not use them for anything that may draw their attention. I would not use them at all if I had a better option.

I tried to set up a Serve account but had no luck there, long story.
 
Yes. Every word is correct from Guns America. PayPal sucks and if there were another easy way of paying for eBay auctions, I'd never use them again.
 
Also Paypal has serious security problems. My bank account was hacked last year through Paypal, haven't used them since.
 
Yep, tried to do a raffle for a holster a few years ago, offered PayPal as a payment option, and they wen't berserk. Will never deal with them ever again.
 
. . .and , Craigslist is 1/2 ( or at least a good portion ) owned by E bay. Seems in the early days, the starter of C list gave shares of the company to one of his workers as a sign of thanks, C list grew, said worker had a falling out and proceded to sell his now high value shares to E bay. . .
 
Easy or not, I have never used Paypal.

I avoid anti-gun companies and businesses if there is any other way to get what needs to be gotten. Any inconvienience or extra cost is worth it.

Every dollar is a vote.
 
I use PP extensively. Never a problem.
I recently bought a gun and had it shipped to me using PP for payments.
I understand the owners of PP are anti-gun but I do belive the first post is unfounded. They are regulated just like banks, in fact, are simply a bank function. If shipping and gun and paying with PP simply list as 'merchandise'.
This is a myth that is growing to the proportions of all false that is said about WD-40, Wal-Mart, etc.
If you want to believe myth, go ahead.
BTW, WD-40 is really made from Martian fish oil.
 
I use PP extensively. Never a problem.
I recently bought a gun and had it shipped to me using PP for payments.
I understand the owners of PP are anti-gun but I do belive the first post is unfounded. They are regulated just like banks, in fact, are simply a bank function. If shipping and gun and paying with PP simply list as 'merchandise'.
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They will freeze your account - they are not regulated, they are not a bank - they are a financial processing business, just like a credit card
 
Rifleman,

It's not a myth.

I know better than a dozen people who have had their paypal accounts frozen and later permanently locked because they either paid, or received payment for, firearms related items.

This is directly from PayPal's terms of service on their website:

"You may not use the PayPal service for activities that:

relate to sales of ... (h) ammunition, firearms, or certain firearm parts or accessories, or (i) ,certain weapons or knives regulated under applicable law"

There's also no listing of what constitutes a prohibited part/accessory. It's an arbitrary ruling by some screen monkey whose ruling can't be challenged.

I can't find anything on PayPal's site that specifically says what the penalties will be for violations of the terms of service, but it's pretty clear from PP's own actions that violations are met with long-term freezing of the account and seizure of the funds in it followed by eventual suspension.

Your characterization of PayPal as a regulated business may be true. They MAY be "regulated" in some fashion by someone or some entity, but in the matter of setting their terms of service and suspending accounts at their whim?

There is NO outside regulation. It is solely and strictly up to their internal policies, and they are most certainly NOT regulated "like banks." That's a pretty ludicrous statement and I'd really like to know your basis for claiming it.

Onceouceload is absolutely correct; PayPal is NOT a bank, and it is NOT regulated as a bank.

This article is a bit old, but it explains the meat of it:

http://news.cnet.com/2100-1017-858264.html

When the Feds say you're not a bank, you're not a bank.

Even if PayPal were a bank, nothing in banking regulations would prevent the company from setting terms of service/acceptable usage standards and enforcing them through account suspension or even forced closure.

Banks and Credit Unions are allowed to take exactly those steps if a customer is found to be violating the institution's terms of service.
 
I personally think PayPal is operated today by a bunch of Liberal (wannabe socialist) Anti-Gun Activist.
PayPal will do as they please, set rules and standards, charge fees and inform you at a later date....That is Wrong.
I would never do any transactions, nor business useing PayPal.
I feel the same way about ebay. They'er partner company.
Ebay - Another anti-gun bunch. And their vocal about

YA - "Their your Pal, and always make you Pay
 
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I have never had a wire transfer through a bank questioned. Heck some banks are exceptionally pro gun. Such as The Bank of Boulder, they are (or at least were) the largest distributer of Weatherbys in the country.
 
I remember back in '03 when I purchased a Colt 14.5" barrel off ebay and used paypal. It's a shame there anti-gun as it a very easy way to make payments or receive funds for items off the internet.
 
I absolutely refuse to use PayPal for all the above listed reasons. I've found nothing for which they are the only option.

As stated, every dollar as a vote. Companies are free to do whatever they like and I am free to patronize them or not. Why support someone with whom you disagree?
 
I can see various reason not to use PP, not going into that, but they have zillions of listing from scopes to gun cases to actual gun parts new and vintage etc. on the bay.
How do they draw the line?
 
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