Painting and powder coating bullets
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totalloser
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Valornor- if you are still following this thread: I had read that in 300 blackout (.223 shortened and necked up for .30) pushing past 1800fps accuracy dropped off dramatically- how is it performing in .223 pushing 3000?
Those are actually .45 bullets, from a MP 45-225 mold.
But here's a .38 group buy from Miha that is closed, but he still has 20 molds on hand. If you send him a PM with the email address that you use in paypal, he'll send you an invoice, and 9 days later, a beautiful brass work of art that is the MiHec experience!!!
Group Buy link
See post #266 for Miha's post on it.
Otherwise, you'd have to join a Group Buy in progress and wait for it to close.
Some close in 4 months, the last one took over 2 years.
We just never know.
Another option is to either buy one from Erik's in-stock molds at www.hollowpointmold.com or you can buy a Lyman or Lee and have Erik convert it to HP for you.
But here's a .38 group buy from Miha that is closed, but he still has 20 molds on hand. If you send him a PM with the email address that you use in paypal, he'll send you an invoice, and 9 days later, a beautiful brass work of art that is the MiHec experience!!!
Group Buy link
See post #266 for Miha's post on it.
Otherwise, you'd have to join a Group Buy in progress and wait for it to close.
Some close in 4 months, the last one took over 2 years.
We just never know.
Another option is to either buy one from Erik's in-stock molds at www.hollowpointmold.com or you can buy a Lyman or Lee and have Erik convert it to HP for you.
David Bachelder
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I got the Harbor Freight Electro Static Powder Coat gun the other day. Today was the first chance I've had to try it out.
I did try the "shake and bake" method and got poor results, guess I'm not cut out for it. I've seen photos of other peoples work that looks fantastic.
I learned a lot.
Shaking the gun a bit helps maintain an even flow. This requires very little effort. I think I'll learn more about using it as time goes along.
I did it inside the garage.
I learned that it is probably an outdoor job, the powder goes a lot of places you don't need it to go.
The loose powder cleans up easily.
My results are a lot better with the ES gun than they were with "shake and bake".
The bullets are pretty, very pretty.
I think a Lazy Susan would help me with getting an even coat. I found that I had to move the pan holding the bullets around to bet the best coat.
Resizing did remove a small amount of the coating on a few, very few, bullets. Maybe this was caused by uneven coating. I don't know.
There was a skirt of powder coat around the base of the bullets, the sizer removed it easily. I did not set them up on anything. they were sitting flat and the base is nekid
I don't see this as being a problem.
The nonstick aluminum foil makes a huge difference.
All in all I was pleased. One of these days I'll get a chance to shoot them
If they were as pretty as Beagles, I'd post photos. I need a little more time to dial my procedure in.
I did try the "shake and bake" method and got poor results, guess I'm not cut out for it. I've seen photos of other peoples work that looks fantastic.
I learned a lot.
Shaking the gun a bit helps maintain an even flow. This requires very little effort. I think I'll learn more about using it as time goes along.
I did it inside the garage.
I learned that it is probably an outdoor job, the powder goes a lot of places you don't need it to go.
The loose powder cleans up easily.
My results are a lot better with the ES gun than they were with "shake and bake".
The bullets are pretty, very pretty.
I think a Lazy Susan would help me with getting an even coat. I found that I had to move the pan holding the bullets around to bet the best coat.
Resizing did remove a small amount of the coating on a few, very few, bullets. Maybe this was caused by uneven coating. I don't know.
There was a skirt of powder coat around the base of the bullets, the sizer removed it easily. I did not set them up on anything. they were sitting flat and the base is nekid
I don't see this as being a problem.The nonstick aluminum foil makes a huge difference.
All in all I was pleased. One of these days I'll get a chance to shoot them
If they were as pretty as Beagles, I'd post photos. I need a little more time to dial my procedure in.
totalloser
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David- Nailhead method makes an even huger difference IMO.
http://castboolits.gunloads.com/showthread.php?232018-My-ES-PC-fixture-system-Nail-head-method
BTW the one on the left is an unused fixture, the other three are uncleaned. Every few batches I run the nailheads across a wire wheel in the bench grinder to clean them up, but the heads mostly stay clean by being covered by the bullet. The two middle ones show buildup on the wood from about 2-3000 .45 and .40 PC'd bullets.
I estimate after about 20,000 coated, I will need to pull the fixtures hot and peel the baked overspray off the fixtures. When hot, the buildup is tacky, soft and does not stick to the wood.
http://castboolits.gunloads.com/showthread.php?232018-My-ES-PC-fixture-system-Nail-head-method
BTW the one on the left is an unused fixture, the other three are uncleaned. Every few batches I run the nailheads across a wire wheel in the bench grinder to clean them up, but the heads mostly stay clean by being covered by the bullet. The two middle ones show buildup on the wood from about 2-3000 .45 and .40 PC'd bullets.
I estimate after about 20,000 coated, I will need to pull the fixtures hot and peel the baked overspray off the fixtures. When hot, the buildup is tacky, soft and does not stick to the wood.
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I tried powder coating bullets, but I found all the extra time spent on the bullets was too much.
The one possible exception is my 44 Mag. I shoot a cast 240 grain SWC w/gc almost exclusively, I trust the revolver and the stoutly loaded ammo for deep penetration, I would have to do lots of testing with powder coated bullets.
The one possible exception is my 44 Mag. I shoot a cast 240 grain SWC w/gc almost exclusively, I trust the revolver and the stoutly loaded ammo for deep penetration, I would have to do lots of testing with powder coated bullets.
Not powder coated, but coated.
Coated with HI-TEK from Bayou Bullets.
I tried my hand at coating some 10MM bullets last week. I screwed these up just a bit as I did them in a cold garage and the bullets were too cool to dry properly before cooking them. They looked good and felt good, but they did not pass the Hammer test.
Even though they did not pass the hammer test I loaded up a hundred and headed for the woods. Set up at 25 yards off a sand bag. Here is the target with all 100 rounds. I did not see any ill affects as far as accuracy goes compared to my 45/45/10 bullets.
My main concern was leading or other unwanteds left in the barrel. I gave the barrel a good scrubbing with Chore-Boy and this is what came out, pretty much nothing.
Coated with HI-TEK from Bayou Bullets.
I tried my hand at coating some 10MM bullets last week. I screwed these up just a bit as I did them in a cold garage and the bullets were too cool to dry properly before cooking them. They looked good and felt good, but they did not pass the Hammer test.
Even though they did not pass the hammer test I loaded up a hundred and headed for the woods. Set up at 25 yards off a sand bag. Here is the target with all 100 rounds. I did not see any ill affects as far as accuracy goes compared to my 45/45/10 bullets.
My main concern was leading or other unwanteds left in the barrel. I gave the barrel a good scrubbing with Chore-Boy and this is what came out, pretty much nothing.