"Pack it on you, or don't pack at all."

<BLOCKQUOTE><font size="1" face="Verdana, Arial">quote:</font><HR>Originally posted by Matt VDW:
Check out http://www.handgunsafe.com . I don't own one of these myself but I plan to get one as soon as Mrs. VDW gives budgetary approval. ;)

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One problem is that that link isn't any good, at least when I tried it. In any case, I'm familiar with most of the locking boxes currently on the market, what I'm looking for is a really slim model that could be installed permanently under the seat and have a remote actuation from perhaps under the dashboard. Quick to access, but not obvious unless you climb around the car looking for it.
 
Folks,

Ya know, as much as CCW has spread around the US (and may it continue to do so!), there has to be an inventor/engineer out there who could design and produce a viable covert, underseat lock box for pistols (and other compact valuables). A good design could be marketed to the CCW holder and to travelers, sales reps, etc. Unfortunately, the drug smugglers, street gangsters, etc. would also buy it but so what?

I am a 22 year cop, firearms trainer and CHL (the Texas term for CCW) instructor and this question of weapons securing methods in vehicles is always coming up, especially when somebody leaves persons in the car while they run into someplace on an errand. Can somebody come up with something viable and cost effective?

Wayne Dobbs
Richardson, TX PD

[This message has been edited by Wayne Dobbs (edited April 15, 2000).]
 
Cajun hit the nail on the head,in my opinion.

The subject brings to mind a teacher in VA that had a ccw and had a revolver in her backpack which was found on the floor in the school. Her answer "I Forgot"---outstanding.

In Texas the first thing you are taught in ccw clas is that you can no longer use the excuse of I forgot--or I didnt know--see,you have to sign all these affidavits and send them to the state capitol saying so.

So,while we are on one of my favorite subjects,the answer is to alter your dress and lifestyle to carry your gun with you. If you try,it aint that hard. As for the ladies who carry,there are many quality holsters on the market now designed especially for ladies.

It can be done,in any climate or setting,12 months out of the year,if you want to bad enough.

Also, a .32 in your pocket beats to hell the howitzer in your glove box or fanny pack. Attacks come when you are not prepared.

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Kevin
Junction Outdoor Supply
www.junctionoutdoorsupply@prodigybiz.com
 
I'm going to mention this here, but briefly so it isn't too much of a self serving plug, which it is.
Terridarri and I just became the Missouri/Kansas dealers for a new concealemt rig similar to the Belly band but with many improvments and none of the drawbacks we all are familiar with. I mention it simply because it is pertinent to the topic and increases the mode and areas one can comfortably carry concealed. I do not want to take up valuable TFL bandwidth for "advertising" so if anyone would like to know more please e-mail me rather than inquire about these new rigs here.

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Gunslinger

We live in a time in which attitudes and deeds once respected as courageous and honorable are now scorned as being antiquated and subversive.
 
A "smart" gun would be a great purse gun. I am not saying that reliable smart guns exist or will anytime soon, but if 100% reliable, it would be much safer in the lost or stolen purse situation. There will be quite a market for smart guns should they become reliable.
 
For those of you concerned about theft:

Why not take the upper receiver with you when you leave the car? This way, if the gun is stolen, no one can be shot. Who would take half of a gun anyway?

Any non CCW holder may want to check this out to see if it is still considered carrying a concealed weapon.
 
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