"Pack it on you, or don't pack at all."

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Ragin Cajun

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I have seen over time suggestions to pack your piece in a "Day Timer", a Bible case, a purse, lunch bag, or where ever.

My answer to all or any of these is . . .

"Pack it on you, or don't pack at all."

We are human, the last time I checked. If it isn't directly ON our person, we will eventually forget, leave it, missplace it, or (in the case of a purse) have it stolen.

The risk simply isn't worth the consequences be it a lost piece or one that falls in the hands of a BG, kid, or whomever.

Perhaps this could be the fifth rule of gun safety. You do remember the first four, don't you? 1. All guns are considered loaded, 2. only point at what you plan to shoot, 3. keep your finger off the trigger until ready, and 4. know your targer - and beyond.

"Pack it on you, or don't pack at all."
 
no thanks. i've carried day planner style. pretty handy. not the quickest to draw from though. will do so in the future.

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Pack it on you and if you are going to pack, make it your constant companion. Exception, showers and sleeping; just make sure it is nearby.
 
I would agree. I used to have my gun in my car. I am really good at locking my car but I had my neice (3 years old) get in one time when I ran into her house to drop something off. my gun was not there at the time but got me to thinking. if my guns are not in my control better to have them locked up. there may be a few occasions that I would carry in a day planner but very few and it would never leave my hand. and be for a very short amount of time.
 
I have had to return both the pack and the pistol contained inside to someone before. I am an advocate of wearing weapons.
 
Sounds good, but it's not always practical.

My wife carries in a Coronado Leather gun purse. Given female clothing styles, it's frequently not possible for her to carry IWB/OWB.

Fact of life guy.
 
<BLOCKQUOTE><font size="1" face="Verdana, Arial">quote:</font><HR>Originally posted by docstodd:
I would agree. I used to have my gun in my car. I am really good at locking my car but I had my neice (3 years old) get in one time when I ran into her house to drop something off. my gun was not there at the time but got me to thinking...[/quote]

I'd like to work out a rig to keep a gun in my car, but I'd have to have some locking box to insure that it wouldn't wander. The ideal solution would be a hidden and locked place that would impose two barriers. Has anyone come up with a unique and workable solution to this problem?
 
While a good rule in principle, I am here to tell you that there are certain clothing styles that just DO NOT permit packing on my person.

When I use purse carry, that purse is ALWAYS in contact with my body... unless in a locker or locked drawer at work. Does that count?

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<BLOCKQUOTE><font size="1" face="Verdana, Arial">quote:</font><HR>Originally posted by johnwill:
I'd like to work out a rig to keep a gun in my car, but I'd have to have some locking box to insure that it wouldn't wander. The ideal solution would be a hidden and locked place that would impose two barriers.
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Check out http://www.handgunsafe.com . I don't own one of these myself but I plan to get one as soon as Mrs. VDW gives budgetary approval. ;)
 
I currently carry on my person all the time but will be getting a new job very soon and will have to adjust. I plan to get a coded security box and bolt it down to the floor behind the passenger seat of my car so I can leave my gun in the car at work.
 
I always have a gun in the car,(glock 29 currently), as you are most likely to get accosted while out and about. I have no young children that have access to the car, and only I drive the car, so I feel safe in keeping the gun in the car, and the car is ALWAYS locked when not in use.
 
I think Ragin Cajun makes an excellent point. We can all imagine scenarios where we are completely surprised by the speed of an attack and only quick access to the gun will save our bacon. An added bonus, if the gun is on our person there is reduced likelihood of an innocent getting ahold of it and getting killed, and us appearing on nationwide TV as another "idiot gun nut" who was irresponsible and killed someone's child. For me, having the gun on the person all the time, while reasonably accessible, means an IWB on my right side. And to accomodate summer as well as winter weather, it calls for a lightweight automatic that is very thin. The two guns I have owned that I think I could carry comfortably year round in such fashion, to include shorts and a T-shirt, are an aluminum frame Sig P232 or a S&W airweight .38. Glocks are too fat and bulky and chunky, all manner of other Sigs too big and a tad too heavy, my Colt CCO too big and a tad too heavy. The new Kahr P9 might work great.

Funny that Ragin Cajun brings up this thread because I have been thinking the same thing lately. Carrying "one gun all the time" requires compromise on many fronts, and for many us the most emotional compromise means choosing a lighter firearm with a smaller chambering than we are "comfortable with".

However, being a great shot with one small gun, immediately accessible, will probably get us safely through more scenarios than the .45 autoblaster requiring several seconds of fumbling to bring into action.
 
The question of how to secure one's piece in the car came up. If you carry CWP, It’s a good idea to keep a lock box in your car. Get one with the Simplex type lock with five push buttons you can program. No keys to lose or fumble around with. They come with the inside padded and a spring open door. Secure a length of chain to the box and lock it around the car seat frame. This way you can easily move it from car to car, or even home. The chain will deter all but the most determined BG from making off with it. If I have to go into a business that is nasty enough to have a “no guns” sign on the door, a government building, etc.; the lock box is certainly better than anywhere else. A similar lock box is handy for the bedroom if you have small children. Just chain it to the bed frame or an eyehook. I purchased mine from R & D Enterprises, (800)-467-4000. These are well made and tough. Use them every day.

I understand the issue with women and the purse. My concern is that I see many women leaving it in the shopping cart, under the counter, the desk, etc. at work. In those instances the purse is definitely not in their control. I have a daughter who is very tall and very thin. She will be getting a permit shortly. Part of the reason for my post is concern on how will she carry. I got her a nice fanny pack, but that will not always go with her attire. I have seen the purses that are made for carry. They are nice, but what will she do when she has to "put it down?"

Another point was one gun for carry. I do switch between a P-32 and a P-11 depending on weather, attire, where I'm going, etc. I don't desire to get into the raging debate on calibers, etc. Just know that's it better to have something than nothing.
 
Great idea in theory, I agree. But reality is always somewhat different.

I work for a company that forbids weapons on the premisis...why? The main reason is that we are on airport property and I have access to all types of aircraft. I'm not about to risk my job and the financial security it brings to carry at work.

That would be stupid, as well as totally irresponsible. I can't feed my family while in prison.

So my carry gun is stored in a lock box in my car. When I drive, I unlock the box. If I need to make a stop in an area that I feel I would prefer to be armed, I make use of my handy dandy Blade Tech Paddle holster.

Yeah guys, I know all the arguements as to why my system is wrong. It works for me and my it fits my needs.

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Improvise, Adapt and Overcome.

Something my military and police instructors have hammered into my thicker-than-normal skull since Day One.

If you can carry a sidearm on your person at all times: good for you.

Sometimes, due to circumstance, we can't all always carry on our persons. In those cases we need to adapt and/or improvise and carry about our persons, instead of on our persons.

If it works for you, and your comfortable with it--good for you.

It's your life, folks. If your method of carry is comfortable for you physically, and comfortable for you mentally, then by all means, carry that way.

LawDog
 
Word of warning: Don't leave your gun in the car. I grew up with a kid that was a major thief. When he was 13 years old he had a sweet collection which included every pistol immaginable (Walthers, Colt's, etc) all taken from the gloveboxes of parked cars. When he got tired of playing with them he simply tossed them in a field somewhere. Keep it on you, or keep it locked up unless you don't mind sharing.
 
Atticus: Blame the thief and not the person who wants to have a gun for protection.

If guns could not be left in cars, the CHL would be functionall useless in TX.

Many of us work at jobs that forbid carry.
The post office bans.
Hospitals ban.

Thus, a very large number of trips would be unarmed with your metric.

Did you call the police about the person you know?

He's the problem, not the legal CHL holder.
Many guns are stolen from houses, your logic suggests that we should not have guns at home.
 
Remember the first rule of a gunfight:
Have a gun.

Granted, if you "have a gun" on your person, it would be the best (and safest) mode of carry. If you "have a gun" in another mode of carry, it is better than nothing. Carrying a gun off your person requires an extra level of awareness.

My .02

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