Marty Hayes
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So far, have received only two confirmations of attendance. Is this all that are going to make it?
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PropellerHead
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I just stumbled across this and am very excited about the idea! I recently picked up a shotgun and now have what I need to compete in a 3-gun match! Woo-Hoo! 
I need to check with my social coordinator (aka wife) to see if we're free that weekend. If we are, this sounds like a lot of fun. I'll let my fellow "gun-nut" friends know about this. I think they'll be interested too.
I need to check with my social coordinator (aka wife) to see if we're free that weekend. If we are, this sounds like a lot of fun. I'll let my fellow "gun-nut" friends know about this. I think they'll be interested too.
Marty Hayes
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Anyone needing a map e-mail me at fasinc@myhome.net, provide me with a snail mail address and I will send one out.
Marty
Marty
I was disapointed that almost no TFLers showed up. Pax and I were the only ones, asside from Marty, of course. But other than that it was great -- one of the most fun competitions I've been to. Pax wrote up a short description of the day. I'll see if I can convince her to post it here.
They'll have another one in July. Worth attending. I can give you directions if you like.
tstr
They'll have another one in July. Worth attending. I can give you directions if you like.
tstr
PropellerHead
New member
My wife and I were there on Saturday!!! My new 1911 wasn't quite ready for prime time, so we watched a few of the rounds, learned a lot, and met some really nice people!
I was hoping that more TFLers would have shown up too.
Thanks to Marty for opening this shoot up to us. I hope he'll do it again, and more of us will show up.
I was hoping that more TFLers would have shown up too.
Thanks to Marty for opening this shoot up to us. I hope he'll do it again, and more of us will show up.
John Marshall
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I wish I could have been there too, but I let a surgeon get too close to my left leg while I was asleep. After six weeks, I still haven't regained my legendary (in my mind ) (im)mobility. I can't do much but stand still and punch paper.
) (im)mobility. I can't do much but stand still and punch paper.I have to apologize in advance for what's going to be a longish post, but I do want to tell you all about the match. It really was a great day and I'll definitely be there the next time FAS hosts a tactical match -- in July? -- whether the rest of you people show up or not. 
You guys missed a great time!
The basic match rules were set for realistic scenarios that a normal CCW holder might encounter. It wasn't designed primarily as a competition nor as a 'game,' but as a medium to help you think things through and improve your skills. There were seven stages; three of the staging areas were primarily thinking stages and the others were primarily shooting stages.
An example of a thinking stage was a scenario where you had just walked into the front area of a restaurant to pay the bill, when behind you in the dining room you hear shots fired and a voice cussing loudly and saying, "Let's just kill them all!" You are three steps from the front door and could easily escape ... but your mother is still sitting in that room. You have to figure out what to do and then do it. You could rescue your mom and escape without attempting to engage the goblins, or shoot it out with them. Walking out and leaving Mom to their tender mercies wasn't acceptable, though. (Yes, I asked. You don't know my mother.) I died on this one by exposing myself for more than 2 seconds. A friend of mine lived through it, but only by hiding himself behind innocent bystanders in order to sneak up on the bad guys ... he claimed that barrels LOOK like barrels, even when you're told they're people.
Another thinking stage was a low-light house. See http://www.thefiringline.com/forums/showthread.php?threadid=66197 over in general for a chance to look over my shoulder while I did that stage. Highlight: the instructor telling me, "No one's ever done it this way before."
The other stages were equally fun but not so hard on the adrenaline factory. There were a couple "shoot from behind a barricade" scenes, a moving target scene, and a shoot off against a randomly-drawn person in your group -- five red targets on either side of two black center targets. Knock over all your red targets, then knock over your black one
before your opponent knocks his over.
How'd I do? Well, I got 7 shots inside the kill zone on the moving target, but it took 10 to pass that stage. I was thrilled anyway because six months ago I couldn't have hit it even if it weren't moving.
Apart from the low-light scene, I flunked *EVERY* stage. Flunking a stage isn't as bad as it sounds; I was there primarily to learn and the group I was with was very understanding. The scenarios were all winnable, but not for a relative newcomer like me. I mean, I hit most all my targets, but never inside the time limit. I made stupid newcomer mistakes like getting killed by a sniper that I never saw because I'd never even seen a steel plate before, having only shot paper targets at informal ranges. Next time I'll do better -- or at least make a different set of mistakes!
I learned a lot and will definitely do it again. More than that, I left the range very excited about the class (FAS-2) that I'll be taking next weekend, because I now have some idea of what I need to learn in that class.
pax
Your fellow human rights activists request the honor of your presence at Seattle Center on May 12th for a very important gun rights demonstration around 11 AM. Join wa-ccw@yahoogroups.com for more information.
You guys missed a great time!The basic match rules were set for realistic scenarios that a normal CCW holder might encounter. It wasn't designed primarily as a competition nor as a 'game,' but as a medium to help you think things through and improve your skills. There were seven stages; three of the staging areas were primarily thinking stages and the others were primarily shooting stages.
An example of a thinking stage was a scenario where you had just walked into the front area of a restaurant to pay the bill, when behind you in the dining room you hear shots fired and a voice cussing loudly and saying, "Let's just kill them all!" You are three steps from the front door and could easily escape ... but your mother is still sitting in that room. You have to figure out what to do and then do it. You could rescue your mom and escape without attempting to engage the goblins, or shoot it out with them. Walking out and leaving Mom to their tender mercies wasn't acceptable, though. (Yes, I asked. You don't know my mother.) I died on this one by exposing myself for more than 2 seconds. A friend of mine lived through it, but only by hiding himself behind innocent bystanders in order to sneak up on the bad guys ... he claimed that barrels LOOK like barrels, even when you're told they're people.
Another thinking stage was a low-light house. See http://www.thefiringline.com/forums/showthread.php?threadid=66197 over in general for a chance to look over my shoulder while I did that stage. Highlight: the instructor telling me, "No one's ever done it this way before."
The other stages were equally fun but not so hard on the adrenaline factory. There were a couple "shoot from behind a barricade" scenes, a moving target scene, and a shoot off against a randomly-drawn person in your group -- five red targets on either side of two black center targets. Knock over all your red targets, then knock over your black one
before your opponent knocks his over.
How'd I do? Well, I got 7 shots inside the kill zone on the moving target, but it took 10 to pass that stage. I was thrilled anyway because six months ago I couldn't have hit it even if it weren't moving.
Apart from the low-light scene, I flunked *EVERY* stage. Flunking a stage isn't as bad as it sounds; I was there primarily to learn and the group I was with was very understanding. The scenarios were all winnable, but not for a relative newcomer like me. I mean, I hit most all my targets, but never inside the time limit. I made stupid newcomer mistakes like getting killed by a sniper that I never saw because I'd never even seen a steel plate before, having only shot paper targets at informal ranges. Next time I'll do better -- or at least make a different set of mistakes!
I learned a lot and will definitely do it again. More than that, I left the range very excited about the class (FAS-2) that I'll be taking next weekend, because I now have some idea of what I need to learn in that class.
pax
Your fellow human rights activists request the honor of your presence at Seattle Center on May 12th for a very important gun rights demonstration around 11 AM. Join wa-ccw@yahoogroups.com for more information.
Marty Hayes
New member
Our next match is Sunday, July 8th if you guys want to try another attempt to get together.