P320 Voluntary Upgrade

Independent George: You don't need to test every angle. If you are trying to induce the trigger pulling from inertia, you need the most vertical angle possible where the slide strikes the ground directly....
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Given that criteria, the P320 passed all the current tests (and there were many) and by all standards, the P320 is just as safe any other gun on the market....on paper. The only way to be sure a gun is 100% safe to test every possible angle, which is not feasible. So the problem is with the testing standards and maybe more than one drop angle should be tested, but the question is how many? If the standards are updated to include multiple drop angles, then every gun currently in production can not be considered safe until passing the new testing standard.

If so folks, plan on spending more for your guns. Not saying that's a bad thing either.
 
qwiksdraw said:
Given that criteria, the P320 passed all the current tests (and there were many) and by all standards, the P320 is just as safe any other gun on the market....on paper. The only way to be sure a gun is 100% safe to test every possible angle, which is not feasible. So the problem is with the testing standards and maybe more than one drop angle should be tested, but the question is how many? If the standards are updated to include multiple drop angles, then every gun currently in production can not be considered safe until passing the new testing standard.

If so folks, plan on spending more for your guns. Not saying that's a bad thing either.
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I'm don't follow your reasoning here - I detailed two simple ways to test the whether the trigger can be pulled by the inertia without testing it from every conceivable angle. That explicitly limits the number of angles required to test its drop safety - how did you jump from that to having to 'test every possible angle'?

Mechanically, there there three different things you are really testing for in a drop test:

1. Whether the firing pin can break free of the FPB (if present) from impact, or ignite a primer through inertia (if no FPB is present)
2. Whether the sear can release the FP through impact
3. Whether the trigger can be pulled through impact.

This does not require an infinite number of iterations.

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Model12Win said:
Minor snag in the road of the greatest combat battle platform weapons system platform pistol in human history, SOOOOO much better than the M9!!! :rolleyes:
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IIRC, the trigger doesn't have the safety like the Glock. As such, the trigger is heavier than a Glock. Gun Tests magazine tested it. The trigger is on the heavy side. Can us civilians get one with an external safety, a la 1911? If so, and a person is used to that manual of arms, I guess the trigger can be modded to be lighter.

Better than the M9 when the M9 is in single action mode?
 
I just sent a 938 into sig. They were awesome. Basically they sent me a shipping label and paid for me to ship it to them directly. Apparently as long as it goes from owner to manufacturer no need to have an FFL. They had it back to me within 2 weeks, I think it was closer to 10 days. Awesome. I wouldn't hesitate to use them again if I need to. I have a 320 and until I understand what this fix does to the trigger pull I'm not planning to do it. I really like the trigger pull as it is.
 
Good point and I will say that I've not read Sig's statement in full. I plan to dive into it once they come out and start doing the actual changes.
 
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