P226 Navy vs MK25

Mine is definitely not a MK25. There is no UID on the frame
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That's not really the distinguishing feature. The sticker on mine came off within like 500 rounds (2 cleanings). The rail is really the main feature of the MK25.

You can also tell by the aesthetics of the phosphate coating on the barrel. It looks like it wears a lot on the barrel hood because it's almost somewhat rough in texture compared to the standard Sig nitron finish.
 
I'm not sure what I'm missing here, but I think if Sig tells me it's a mk25 Navy model they should know what they're speaking about.
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You're missing the part that Kevin's gun is NOT A MK25.

I don't know how to make that any more clear. We are not talking about your gun. We are talking about his gun.

You told him it's a MK25.... it is not.

All MK25 models have a serial that start with UU.

All P226 true Navy models have a serial that starts with NSW.

Anything else is a mixture of parts. The MK25 is a newer model of what was previously just called the P226 Navy. The 'NSW' guns were actually made for military delivery but were overruns. The MK25 is a commercially produced version made to military specs.
 
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For sure. Nothing wrong with a special config. Post pics of the barrel when you get it and I should be able to tell you if it is or not.
 
Oh okay, cool. A pic showing the top and side of the barrel in the slide and also of the muzzle end with the slide locked back.

Try to have it as dry as possible - i.e. not wet with oil.

Also a photo of the action with the slide off and the hammer cocked back. Might be able to tell on that, but it's a good bet that if the barrel is, the internals are as well (or vice versa).
 
Sorry for the confusion, I never was speaking about Kevin's gun, and I thought you were referring to mine.

I understand the gun I have is a replica and not truly a military gun.
 
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It most assuredly is.
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It most assuredly is NOT. That frame is a standard Sig rail. The MK25 has a 1913 picatinny rail.
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It most assuredly is a Mk25, and that is a 1913 rail. Sig's standard proprietary rail is curved.

This is also a Mk25 and is not phosphate coated:
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It most assuredly is a Mk25, and that is a 1913 rail. Sig's standard proprietary rail is curved.
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Please, pay attention. We've already gone over this.

We are talking about Kevin's gun, not Billy's.

Here is Kevin's gun:
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It is NOT a MK25. It DOES have the curved Sig rail, NOT the 1913 rail.

Yours is a MK25 Desert. Different gun still.
 
According to Sig Sauer themselves, this is in fact a Navy built in 2006 and it has all of the phosphate coated components, no srt and no night sights. He said plenty of Navy's were built with the U serial number.


And I only had to wait like 7 minutes on hold.
 
Glad you got it sorted out. Looks like some of the later models did not include the NSW serial and did indeed include a standard Sig rail.

I guess the NSW's were just the first release special editions.

The first Naval Special Warfare inspired P226 pistols to be offered to the public were the NSW Commemoratives, issued in early 2004. The SIG P226-9-NAVY is a version of the SIG P226 that is produced that features a stainless steel slide engraved with an anchor to designate them as Naval Special Warfare pistols. SIGARMS raised $100,000 for the Special Operations Warrior Foundation through the sale of these NSW serialized pistols. The pistol bearing serial number NSW0001 was sold during a live auction on the nationally syndicated Laura Ingraham radio show for an additional $25,000. Later produced commercial versions added a universal rail for accessory attachments while retaining the anchor of previous models, but do not have the SIGLITE Night Sights.
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I guess the NSW's were just the first release special editions.
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Yes the NSW serial numbered guns are the original. There were additional runs of the same gun but they featured a U serial number. The early follow up runs where identical to the orignal run except for the U serial number. The original NSW guns have German frames with early stainless steel slides. The further you got away from the original run the more changes you saw.

Original run NSW guns come with a certificate of authenticity.

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After a while the were basically franken guns. They were assembled with different frame some with rails and some without. They changed the anchor from a gold inlay to a stamp. They became more of a "Cohen" marketing ploy more than anything else. If you like a particular configuration they make good guns but outside the original run the "Navy" and all their later variations are not really collectible. You will see some with threaded barrels some with pic rails some with non pic rails. Like most Sigs they have become pretty convoluted. They did the same crap with the P228.

A very nice one sold recently on the Sig Forum for about $800 IIRC.





In the end they are basically phosphate coated Sigs with an anchor on them but they are really not any different than other Sigs. I personally cannot stand the UID sticker they are putting on some guns. Complete marketing BS. For example the M11-A1 has one yet it have never been adopted by anyone which would use the UID. They used the numbers from the M11/P228/ :mad:
 
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