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Outrage over CA gun law
- Thread starter OneInTheChamber
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OneInTheChamber
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21counter; welcome to TFL!
The way I transport is locked container for each gun (whether rifle, shotgun, or handgun) with the ammo in a range bag; not having any locked handgun cases within the rangebag. I drive a truck, and I'm not putting $$$$ worth of guns in the bed; nor $$$ worth of accessories and range items either. The back seat is where it all goes.
If anyone knows for a fact that there is something there that I could get "busted" for, let me know. Better safe than sorry. But I don't think a LEO will right you up for that unless you were doing something else bad (drugs in car, really bad speeding or reckless driving, etc. ). Most LEO are very rational, nice people.
When you bought your handgun, they probably assumed the lock that the PD gave you was "Fresh". The law requires that you have proof of purchase no older than 30 days. Most of gunlocks are still in new in container, somewhere in my closet, but have been there for months. I buy most of my guns from a dealer than gives you a free lock (via project child safe) with each gun. But, this is thru a small dealer who makes AR's into CA legal rifles (sealed mag well, it still gets all the "evil" features of its "brothers").
But I figure "Oh Well", the $10 lock is worth 1/200 of the rifle, so why worry? If you can afford a gun, you can afford a lock; even though you shouldn't have to buy one.
The way I transport is locked container for each gun (whether rifle, shotgun, or handgun) with the ammo in a range bag; not having any locked handgun cases within the rangebag. I drive a truck, and I'm not putting $$$$ worth of guns in the bed; nor $$$ worth of accessories and range items either. The back seat is where it all goes.
If anyone knows for a fact that there is something there that I could get "busted" for, let me know. Better safe than sorry. But I don't think a LEO will right you up for that unless you were doing something else bad (drugs in car, really bad speeding or reckless driving, etc. ). Most LEO are very rational, nice people.
When you bought your handgun, they probably assumed the lock that the PD gave you was "Fresh". The law requires that you have proof of purchase no older than 30 days. Most of gunlocks are still in new in container, somewhere in my closet, but have been there for months. I buy most of my guns from a dealer than gives you a free lock (via project child safe) with each gun. But, this is thru a small dealer who makes AR's into CA legal rifles (sealed mag well, it still gets all the "evil" features of its "brothers").
But I figure "Oh Well", the $10 lock is worth 1/200 of the rifle, so why worry? If you can afford a gun, you can afford a lock; even though you shouldn't have to buy one.
OneInTheChamber
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Tom2, yep, you take out the bigger takedown pin and swing it open like an o/u shotgun; load your ten, shut it, and then do what you would normally do.
Good news is that it can be modified back to normal if you move out of state or get a letter of approval as an LEO. It only costs $100 for them to un-CA it to.
Good news is that it can be modified back to normal if you move out of state or get a letter of approval as an LEO. It only costs $100 for them to un-CA it to.
Scope; it has the magazine well sealed, with an internal 10 roung magazine; which removes the "detachable magazine" part and thus allows all of the "evil" features of an ar.
Oh yes, one of those. I just can't bring myself to get excited about an assault rifle that doesn't except detachable magazines. That's my favorite evil feature! And probably the most useful.
Good news is that it can be modified back to normal if you move out of state or get a letter of approval as an LEO. It only costs $100 for them to un-CA it to.
Now this I hadn't heard. I have not taken a second look at the guns you mention because I have been hoping to move out of state and get myself a standard AR, and the idea of dragging along a break-open assault rifle that I would never use again does not appeal to me. But you say it can be modified. How? Put a new "lower" on it? (I am a pistol guy and ignorant when it comes to rifles; I am not even sure what a "lower" is. But on some Cali gun sites people have been making a big deal out of them.)
Having the handgun in a lock box and the ammo in a range bag is perfectly legal. Essentially the law states the gun must be locked and unloaded and ammunition must be separate. It doesn't say anything about loaded magazines or requiring it or loose ammo to be in a locked container, so it's fine as long as they're separate.
As far as the above statement.. no I don't agree... ex post facto laws are unconstitutional.
As far as the above statement.. no I don't agree... ex post facto laws are unconstitutional.
OneInTheChamber
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If you are planning on moving out, you might as well wait on geting that AR. I aasure you, that a California legal AR today will be illegal tomorrow.
I won't be moving in the next 5 years, and I picked it up today. It if were to be considered an assault weapon in the future, I would have a 90 day period to register it as one.
; well you could, but that would be considered a whole new gun. The place that sealed it (www.californiabushmaster.com) can unseal it too. They basically torch it off (trust me, don't try this out home, he said they went through a lot of lowers perfecting their techniques) and make it look like normal again.But you say it can be modified. How? Put a new "lower" on it?