wun_8_seven
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shoot em all ,buzzards gotta eat same as the worms
Our Second Pig Mafia
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johnwilliamson062
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I am totally for culling them. I know a lot of farmers in Ohio carry rifles in their tractor cabs to shoot white tail and coyote. In season, out of season, it doesn't bother them. Out of season they obviously leave the deer for the buzzards and always leave the coyotes. They also try to take clean shots. Of course these are the same guys who have stopped shooting antlered bucks b/c ODNR is forecasting Ohio White tail will all be antlerless in as little as ten years b/c of the trophy hunters "genetically engineering" them so.
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Don't get the definition of "Culling" wrong.
The act of culling is separation, or to pick out one or more from a group.
We do not do that. We try our damn'dest to kill every last one we see... whether we stalk them, or hunt them.
That fits more along the lines of the word, "Exterminating".
We just harvest what we can while doing it.
PS. do you have a link 45Marlin carbine?
I can't seem to find the projectiles you mentioned.
I have experimented with the Speer 125's, and they can pass-thru.
The act of culling is separation, or to pick out one or more from a group.
We do not do that. We try our damn'dest to kill every last one we see... whether we stalk them, or hunt them.
That fits more along the lines of the word, "Exterminating".
We just harvest what we can while doing it.
PS. do you have a link 45Marlin carbine?
I can't seem to find the projectiles you mentioned.
I have experimented with the Speer 125's, and they can pass-thru.
Hey Yithian,
Maybe there is another way for you guys to look at your problem with hogs.
I don't know your set up or the lay of the land but there might be another solution.
I had a friend who begged me to go on a hunt with him so I went along---he was a good friend and I got tired of his nagging.
Anyway, we did have a very good fair hunt and at the end of the day, I was glad I went along and my buddy was happy as could be.
We went here:
http://www.chestnuthuntinglodge.com/prices.htm
Maybe you guys could do something like this and make a few bucks to off set the damage??
Just a thought, may or may not be feasible for your situation.
Dipper
Maybe there is another way for you guys to look at your problem with hogs.
I don't know your set up or the lay of the land but there might be another solution.
I had a friend who begged me to go on a hunt with him so I went along---he was a good friend and I got tired of his nagging.
Anyway, we did have a very good fair hunt and at the end of the day, I was glad I went along and my buddy was happy as could be.
We went here:
http://www.chestnuthuntinglodge.com/prices.htm
Maybe you guys could do something like this and make a few bucks to off set the damage??
Just a thought, may or may not be feasible for your situation.
Dipper
LOL one place we frequent, the owner has set up 10 foot fences, just for that purpose.
It is a real nice fence too. 3 inch cattle guard fencing all the way around.
Must've cost him a huge fortune.
He was thinking he would hoard what he had caught and make some extra cash.
ATTT's father-in-law leases a few hundred acres there for feed, so we get to sweep thru there on occasion.
We freaked out the owners sister one day when we passed by the house with "The Red-Neck Parade" locked and loaded on top of ATTT's truck.
If my memory serves, there were four of us up there.
So, now we don't go on the place when he or his family are around.
They use this place as a weekend and summer getaway. (They are wealthy)
In the last year, we have only been on the place four times.
Anyway, now the pigs have multiplied and began 'bumping' the fencing.
The owner shoots the things everywhere... including the tanks.
He used to leave the carcasses where they fell, including in the tanks.
(That was some seriously nasty water.)
Three weeks ago, he called while ATTT and I were trying to get that 205Lb sow in the truck.
He shot more pigs and wanted to know if we wanted them.
Along with his, we had five pigs to clean.
He is getting more knowledgeable now.
His property alone is something like 1100 acres, about 1.7 square miles. (yes, he fenced the entire thing, ten foot high)
I wonder if he realizes yet, that he has hundreds of pigs, and about three dozen deer.
Literally, every time we go on his property for pigs, we stumble across 'sounds' of them. Either mothers with piglets, or juvenile boars in groupings.
The deer seem to 'hide' from the pigs by staying on the cultivated areas and away from the natural cover.
He has enough property to get away with 'canned hunts' but did not account for the breeding rate.
He has way too many now, but has yet to ask openly for our help getting them back to a controlled population.
Thanks to that fence, he is stuck, and we are waiting...
One day, that fence will be breached, and there will be a commotion the likes of which hasn't been seen.
All his neighbors will hate him... with full freezers. :barf:
It is a real nice fence too. 3 inch cattle guard fencing all the way around.
Must've cost him a huge fortune.
He was thinking he would hoard what he had caught and make some extra cash.
ATTT's father-in-law leases a few hundred acres there for feed, so we get to sweep thru there on occasion.
We freaked out the owners sister one day when we passed by the house with "The Red-Neck Parade" locked and loaded on top of ATTT's truck.
If my memory serves, there were four of us up there.
So, now we don't go on the place when he or his family are around.
They use this place as a weekend and summer getaway. (They are wealthy)
In the last year, we have only been on the place four times.
Anyway, now the pigs have multiplied and began 'bumping' the fencing.
The owner shoots the things everywhere... including the tanks.
He used to leave the carcasses where they fell, including in the tanks.
(That was some seriously nasty water.)
Three weeks ago, he called while ATTT and I were trying to get that 205Lb sow in the truck.
He shot more pigs and wanted to know if we wanted them.
Along with his, we had five pigs to clean.
He is getting more knowledgeable now.
His property alone is something like 1100 acres, about 1.7 square miles. (yes, he fenced the entire thing, ten foot high)
I wonder if he realizes yet, that he has hundreds of pigs, and about three dozen deer.
Literally, every time we go on his property for pigs, we stumble across 'sounds' of them. Either mothers with piglets, or juvenile boars in groupings.
The deer seem to 'hide' from the pigs by staying on the cultivated areas and away from the natural cover.
He has enough property to get away with 'canned hunts' but did not account for the breeding rate.
He has way too many now, but has yet to ask openly for our help getting them back to a controlled population.
Thanks to that fence, he is stuck, and we are waiting...
One day, that fence will be breached, and there will be a commotion the likes of which hasn't been seen.
All his neighbors will hate him... with full freezers. :barf:
UniversalFrost
New member
good thread. If you ever need any help just holler.I am only a short drive away.
got a nice little .357 max contender (pistol 15" barrel) that is one shot pig medicine and has taken many hogs.
i hear ya on the worry about richocet, but your buddy has got to learn how to control his fire. A stray bullet can kill just as easily as a richocet and doesn't matter what type of bullet you are shooting.
Also, you might want to try the 45/70 444 or 450 for pigs. it is strong medicine in nifty lever actions especially with teh 18" barrels on the guide guns.
got a nice little .357 max contender (pistol 15" barrel) that is one shot pig medicine and has taken many hogs.
i hear ya on the worry about richocet, but your buddy has got to learn how to control his fire. A stray bullet can kill just as easily as a richocet and doesn't matter what type of bullet you are shooting.
Also, you might want to try the 45/70 444 or 450 for pigs. it is strong medicine in nifty lever actions especially with teh 18" barrels on the guide guns.
mr kablammo
New member
Yithian, great posts. I live in Austin and a friend and I are trying to get into 'rolling some hawgs'. He has a Finn-capture Mosin-Nagent that ought to be fearsomely accurate with a scope. How does one get into the hawg eradication circles? Last weekend we drove out to Taylor and Granger, TX and found Vincle Mares BBQ joint. A very interesting place with good sausage BBQ. Andrew and I are trying to figure out how to meet the landowners and how to demonstrate that we are not just 'city boys'.
Can you get close enough to the hawgs to use 12 ga slugs?
Can you get close enough to the hawgs to use 12 ga slugs?
UniversalFrost
New member
from my personal experiences in Oklahoma hog hunting you really don't have to worry about getting close to the hogs, instead you have to worry about the hogs getting close to you and tearing you up. Yes a 12 ga pump or semi- with slugs would be perfect for up close and out to the 100 yrd mark if ya got a rifled barrel and scope.
JOE
JOE
I wish there was a method for the public to take an active role, without damaging property.
Me? I work in a Sporting Goods Dept. at Walmart.
Guys come in complaining, and I offer to help and get phone numbers.
Most owners think of bad experiences with previous hunters, and opt out.
Sometimes, I can compare notes with owners. Sometimes I get to help out.
The guy with the lion problem came to see "the guy that helps out". (me)
I really should call him soon. Just to make sure it wasn't a heat of the moment complaint during our conversation.
You can get close to them if you can 'muddy up" your outline.
Camo or earth colors helps. Trees and bushes behind you helps more.
They hear very well but the nose is what a hunter fears.
If they are making noise, walking up on them is butter.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uxFMUV9unsw
Thanks for the support guys.
For a while there, I was feeling quite down about myself while trying to explain.
Me? I work in a Sporting Goods Dept. at Walmart.
Guys come in complaining, and I offer to help and get phone numbers.
Most owners think of bad experiences with previous hunters, and opt out.
Sometimes, I can compare notes with owners. Sometimes I get to help out.
The guy with the lion problem came to see "the guy that helps out". (me)
I really should call him soon. Just to make sure it wasn't a heat of the moment complaint during our conversation.
You can get close to them if you can 'muddy up" your outline.
Camo or earth colors helps. Trees and bushes behind you helps more.
They hear very well but the nose is what a hunter fears.
If they are making noise, walking up on them is butter.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uxFMUV9unsw
Thanks for the support guys.
For a while there, I was feeling quite down about myself while trying to explain.
johnwilliamson062
Moderator
From the link you just posted I assume you missed our point earlier...
Let me guess you shot your cat with a bow and arrow when you were 10.
"It just ran behind the target as I shot"
Let me guess you shot your cat with a bow and arrow when you were 10.
"It just ran behind the target as I shot"
johnwilliamson062
Moderator
You want to know a good commercial for an assault weapon ban?
The video you are disseminating followed by someone saying "Can we really trust these people with military weapons."
Stop disseminating videos and stories of hunters/shooters looking like idiots and I won't be hostile.
Think about how many people we have to take to the range and introduce to shooting in order to counter the negative effects of a video like that?
I don't recommend stacking the prisoners naked in a pyramid, but if you are going to do it, at least have the common sense not to take pictures.
The video you are disseminating followed by someone saying "Can we really trust these people with military weapons."
Stop disseminating videos and stories of hunters/shooters looking like idiots and I won't be hostile.
Think about how many people we have to take to the range and introduce to shooting in order to counter the negative effects of a video like that?
I don't recommend stacking the prisoners naked in a pyramid, but if you are going to do it, at least have the common sense not to take pictures.
WOW!
The vid I linked to, the guy isn't even holding a firearm of any sort.
He just sneaks out and boots a feral pig in the butt.
He didn't want pork for dinner. Tho, he is an idiot, IMO.
I am thinking you see a different vid.
Edit: Never mind JW.
You worry about your neck of the woods, and I'll worry about mine.
I don't feel like being talked down to, from a hatter.
Thank the Mods for the ignore function.
You feel free to do the same with me.
The vid I linked to, the guy isn't even holding a firearm of any sort.
He just sneaks out and boots a feral pig in the butt.
He didn't want pork for dinner. Tho, he is an idiot, IMO.
I am thinking you see a different vid.
Edit: Never mind JW.
You worry about your neck of the woods, and I'll worry about mine.
I don't feel like being talked down to, from a hatter.
Thank the Mods for the ignore function.
You feel free to do the same with me.
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Art Eatman
Staff in Memoriam
A bunch of feral hogs can leave a field or pasture looking like a drunk with a backhoe had been playing. I have seen rooted-in areas where rocks of forty or fifty pounds had been moved around.
All in all, I guess feral hogs are about the only animal for which I have no concern, from the standpoint of "hunter's ethics". They're right in there with screwworm flies, cockroaches and scorpions.
At least the hogs are edible, if a person wants to do the work.
Art
All in all, I guess feral hogs are about the only animal for which I have no concern, from the standpoint of "hunter's ethics". They're right in there with screwworm flies, cockroaches and scorpions.
At least the hogs are edible, if a person wants to do the work.
Art