[OT]: Unexplained Occurrences & the Supernatural / Ghosts.

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I recently had an unusual experience (see 'How do you handle unexplained "bumps in the night"') where I left a bag on the table and a couple of days later it fell off the table in the middle of the night -- waking us up with the thought that there was somebody in the house. In all likelihood, it was mostlikley a combinations of the house settling (the house is under a year old and the AC air that eventually caused the bag to fall over -- either that, or four legged pets that I am not aware of yet.

Anyway you look at, it was a little strange with no solid explanation for what happened. This may be a little off-topic, but I'm just curious if other members have ever had any unusual things happen with no reasoanable explanation readily apparent.

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I personally do not believe in ghosts or the supernatural but just because I don't believe in it, doesn't mean that it doesn't exist. Using the same logic, just because somebody does believe in it, doesn't mean that it exists either. Your thoughts?
 
What was in the bag?

If it was sitting there for "a couple of days," the myriad vibrations in any house: people walking past, the AC going on and off, etc., could have slowly caused the bag's balance to shift. Eventually (not unlike the leaning tower of Pisa is currently trying to do) it reached the breaking point.

As for ghosts, do I believe in them?

Yep. I grew up in a haunted house. No doubt about it at all in my mind. I finally got used to seeing the "other people" who lived there.

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Chances are he knows how to use it.
 
Oh, they exist alright, but that's probably not what knocked the bag down. I agree with Mike Irwin on that one.
My folks lived in an old house with a definite presence in it, and not real pleasant. We never saw anything, but you could sure as heck feel it in certain rooms. Some people are more sensitive to it than others. My folks never felt it, and neither did my husband -- but my kids and I did (I never said a word to them until they brought it up), as did a friend of mine. The kids adored their grandparents but never enjoyed staying with them in that particular house.
 
I stopped having supernatural experiences once I remembered to put the lid back on the bottle of #9 at night. :)
 
Several years ago while working for KCPD we had an elderly lady that called 911 regularly to complain about ghost in her house. We would respond and it would take very little to placate her. However the calls did take time out from legitimate calls for service where we were needed. One night after yet another act of removing the ghost I explained to her that she was calling the wrong number. I explained that the number was easy to remember. If she needed telephone information she dialed 411. She agreed. I then explained that if she needed police, fire or ambulance service she called 911. She, of course, was all too familiar with this number. I then told her that while we, the police, could rid her of the ghost it was only temporary. She conceeded that she had been less than pleased with our services since the ghost always returned. We were not real happy that they returned either. I told to rid herself properly and permanently of the ghost she needed to call Ghost Busters. She, having several grandchildren, had heard all about Ghost Busters since it was popular at the time. I then told her if the ghost appeared again she should dial 111. She never called us back.

FUD, dial 111. :D

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I wonder if the particle accelerator backpacks from Ghost Busters are covered by Class III weaponry rules.

Next thing we know ghostly alligators will be giving FUD the evil eye at the gas station.

From ghoulies and ghosties and long legged beasties and things that go bump in the night, may the Good Lord preserve us.

First test for a ghost in your house, pull the trigger, then there might be one.
 
Personally I don't believe in ghosts or the supernatural. I am a dyed-in-the-wool materialist. I DO believe that the human brain and the perceptions that reach it work in very strange and poorly-understood ways and that things that seem very real to the individual can turn out to be something totally different.
 
Some friends had a "resident" in their house who liked to move things. They named him but I don't recall the name. Anyway, this unseen visitor would drop the toilet lid - did it on several occasions when I was there. We would be eating or watching TV and BAM! the lid would drop. I checked it and it was no different than any other lid. It stood up well over center and you had to move it to make it fall. Although I never witnessed it, they said he would knock silverware off the table and rattle dishes but never when someone could see it happen.

So, they raised Appaloosa show horses, as did I at the time, and they had a prize mare and foal they kept in a large double stall in a newly constructed horse barn. The stall walls went floor to ceiling and were solid on the bottom and chain link on top. One night they woke to a very bright and loud clap of lightning and thunder. They looked out and could see flames in the barn from the lightning strike so they rushed outside to save the horses. The horses were already in the pasture - which would require opening the barn door, the stall door and the pasture gate, all of which were still closed. They saved the barn by putting out the hay fire with a large hose they used for cleaning out stalls and trailers. The only damage was the burned bales which were stacked next to the mare's stall.

Go figure...

Mikey
 
I like it! I don't find that stuff creepy at all; just different. I get a really good feeling from that story.
 
My Aunt had a really freaky experience while playing with a weegie board. Her and some of her friends where playing around with one. She asked the Question "Who will I marry?" The answer give was Steven G. Keep in ming this was when she was a child and hadn't really started dating. Today she is married to a Steven Gregory.

I personaly would never even think about playing with a weegie board. When you use them you are opening a doorway and theres on telling what you could let through. Call me superstitious or crazy, I don't care which but I am a firm believer in the "supernatural" and I don't screw around with it.
 
Yup, they DO exist. Like Mike, I too grew up in a "haunted" house.
I would go into details, but I've seen so many unexplainable things happen over the years, it would take up a lot of space.
It's just the ordinary "ghost" stuff though,
like footsteps, slamming and locking doors, creaking floorboards, being cold enough to see your own breath in August, dishwashers being pulled out and moved across the kitchen, walnuts that appear out of nowhere, furniture re-arranging, scraping sounds, etc.

I used to grab a gun at 3:00AM a LOT, only to find out the noises that I, and the dog heard, was only something else that lived in the house. ;)
 
I have an aunt who was married to a 3/4 American Indian. He died about 10 years ago. He used to get up in the morning and make coffee for her when he was alive. He made coffee for her several times after he died. She would get up in the morning and find fresh brewed coffee in the pot.
I went over one evening and could smell cigar smoke, this was after he had been dead for about a year. She just laughed and said he was enjoying his evening cigar. There were no cigars in the house. I could also smell his aftershave cologne.
He was a hell of a man. He stood 6 ft at 13 and had a full beard at 14. Was honorably discharged after serving through the Korean conflict. He go his draft notice 2 months after he was discharged, he had just turned 18. Like I said a hell of a man.
 
Was taking a "whiz" in los banos of mi casa when the light switch was thrown down. No one nearby to play pranks either. The draft can't do it (curtains weren't even moving and none felt).

If this means I'm going nuts, do I get to go out on a mental disability (yay!)?
 
Searching for my Shakespeare here:

"There is more between heaven and earth than your philosophy has ever dreamed of."


Which is the same as saying there's more to know than you can even know. Don't count anything out.
 
Spending some time in houses with "ghosts" I can attest they are indeed real. Until you have experienced it, you can't comprehend.

There comes a point where you spend most of your time trying to expain how these random events possibly could have happened by a series of plausible, rational explanations.

At first, some people see hints of ghosts and think they may have experienced it, where there is plenty of evidence that what they experienced was not a ghost but a hallucination or whatnot.
Then there are times when things happen right before your eyes (with witnesses) that are so impossible that the only rational, possible explanation is that a ghostly entity was involved.
I have exerienced such events, that, as a trained scientist who is very skeptical and refuses to believe anything without proof, absolutely could not be explained in any earthly way.
I could give examples, but unless you were there, all you will do is second guess what happened and ask me a million questions that I have already asked myself.
As a well trained and educated scientist, I have to accept all possibilities, and I am not so arrogant as to believe that just because I can't create something in a lab and measure it with current tools, that it does not exist.

I can appreciate being skeptical, but there comes a point where skepticism becomes outright refusal to accept something that has a lot of evidence to support it. As a scientist, I believe that I should be open to all possible conclusions. I am skeptical, but I cannot refuse to believe one of the possible conclusions, or else I am not being an open minded scientist. And, with my experiences, in some cases there was no rational explanation accept that a "ghost did it".

You can see that I am torn in this. On one hand, my strict scientific training tells me that I should ridicule and toss aside any such silly assertions as "spirits" or anything that I cannot recreate in a lab. But, on the other hand my scientific training tells me to be open-minded and not to rule out any possiblity, and not to be biased in my conclusions. With that in mind, I cannot understand why people call themselves "skeptics" and "scientists" and in the next breath say that they refuse to believe in "the supernatural" (or whatever you want to call it). If you are a true scientist, you should be open to ALL conclusions as possible.

Sorry for rambling, it's late. I am going to bed, in my fortunatly NON-haunted home.




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I could be an old stick in the mud and ask if the ghosts were armed and how this relates to anything gun related, but,,,,,,,,

(this stuff gives me the heebie-jeeebies) ;)

Stop it already, you folks are giving me the creeps ;)
Ohhhhh, yeah,,,,I've seen some things and been some places. Never, I repeat, never again.
 
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