[OT]: They tried to lock me up but I escaped.

FUD

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<BLOCKQUOTE><font size="1" face="Verdana, Arial">quote:</font><HR>Originally posted by Mal H:
I think I can speak for the GenDis mods and hope they don't mind when I say:

FUD - go for it!
[/quote]My last two business trips (see "Attempted Kidnapping / Child Abduction" and "Ever been mistaken for a criminal & had a LEO point a gun at you") were rather intersting to say the least. Well, this will make it three out of three.

A little bit of background first ... I never had my tonsils removed and as a result I find myself susceptible to strep throat usually a couple of times a year. If I catch it early and treat it with penicillin, there are usually no complications. Otherwise, I end up coming down with a cold, flu, tonsillitis, etc. With a baby in the house, I try to avoid this so that I don't pass any germs on to her. Once when she was less than a year old, she caught my strep throat and almost had to be hospitalized.

I had to fly out to our data centers in Arizona & California on a business trip. During my flight to Arizona, my throat starting feeling a little scratchy (I guess the germs on the plane in such an enclosed space) and the following morning it was worse and I knew that I had strep throat and I was starting to come down with a cold as well. When I arrived in California, it was mid-afternoon and after contacting my insurance provider, I found a walk-in clinic that wasn't too far away and accepted my insurance.

I went there, filled out the new patient form and waited to be seen by the doctor. I was starting to feel a little sleepy/groggy from all of the over-the-counter medicine that I bought at the airport. I really didn't need to be seen by a doctor -- I just needed a perscription for some penicillin (the sooner I started taking it, the sooner I would not be contagious when I got home thus providing a better chance that the little one wouldn't catch whatever I had) but I knew that they wouldn't give me one without first examining me.

So I sat down in the waiting room and after about half an hour I was brought into one of the examining rooms where I patiently waited to be seen. After reading all of the magazines in the room, I realized that I had been waiting for over an hour and decided to poke my head out to see what was holding things up.

When I opened the door, I noticed that everything was dark -- it wasn't actually dark because the sun was still out but all of the lights were off and the placed was CLOSED with nobody else inside except me!

A slight panic started to set in as I tried the front door and realized that it was locked. Looking at the windows, I noticed that they were wired along with the back emergency exit. I thought about going out that way but was concerned about setting off some alarms and/or being caught on film/video tape as I tried to leave.

So I decided to call the clinic on my cell phone and sure enough the phone started to ring and the answering machine went on after several rings. The message said that they were closed and that if this was a true medical emergency, to press one otherwise to stay on the line and leave a message. It really wasn't a medical emergency, so I started to leave a message but as soon as I started speaking, I heard the message being recorded there in the office and I realized that this wasn't going to be of any good so I called up again and pressed '1' for a "medical emergency".

I was then given further instructions with pager numbers, etc. I called the pager number twice. Once to leave a voice message and the second time with my cell number. A few minutes later, a woman called back and she seemed a little confused. I might not have been clear because I was clogged, groggy & had difficulty in speaking because my throat hurt so bad and in a rush to make sure that I said everything before the darn thing cut me off.

I explained to her that I was in the examining room waiting to be seen by a doctor and I told her that while I didn't mind waiting, I really had to get back and couldn't stay there all night (pun intended). Initially she thought that this was a crank call but I started walking around the office descibing everything there in great detail even talking about the personal photos that were hanging up from a company picnic/camp-out, etc.

That finally convinced her that I was actually inside the building and she said that she would be there shortly. After about 20 minutes, a police car pulls up and two LEOs walk up to the door to see if it is open. I see them and they see me. I smile and wave at them but they don't smile or wave back.

About 10 to 15 minutes later a woman with the keys shows up and opens the door. They walk in and the LEOs grab me and start searching me. I was never man-handled by LEOs before and this was a rather unpleasant feeling. They later apologize but said that it was necessary for everyone safety to ensure that I wasn't armed.

While all of this is going on, the woman (who recognized me from being there earlier) is checking some papers and realizes that I was never actually seen by the doctor -- thus confirming my story that I was locked in.

The LEOs then ask the woman if she wants to press charges and she says no and they tell me that I'm free to go. I mention to the woman that I need a perscription for penicillin and she tells me that one can not be provided until I am examined by a doctor. I reply that I've been waiting in the examining room for the past couple of hours and when is this docotor going to get here. She replies that they are closed and that I would have to come back tomorrow. I reply back that I'm flying back to the east coast tomorrow and she then says that there isn't anything she can do.

Before anyone offers any criticism on my actions, please bear in mind that I had taken some over-the-counter cold medicine and my thinking process wasn't as clear as it could/should have been.

Now, for the reason for this thread ... when the LEOs asked the woman if she wanted to press charges -- press charges for WHAT? They are the ones who unlawfully detained me against my will by accidently locking me in. Isn't that some form of kidnapping? Shouldn't the LEOs have asked ME if I wanted to press charges?

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[This message has been edited by FUD (edited September 13, 2000).]
 
Another good reason not to stand too close to the FUD.

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You have some bad luck there FUD, I have no idea where they got off saying she had the right to charge you. I can sympathize w/ your visit to the socialist medikal system as I just made a trip myself the other day for a foot injury. Had to get permission and convince them of the medicine I needed too before I could get it. You know 100 years ago I could have had opium poppies growing in the back yard in case I needed some pain killers or gone to the pharmacy and picked up assorted cold remedies, now I have to have 100 idiots charge the hell out of me to give me something that doesn't work because they "feel" I wasn't in much pain. Isn't progress wonderful ?
 
I had a friend that got locked in a department store one night. He had a little more fun running around there and once he got bored he just went out the fire exit on the loading dock.

Boy FUD you are Murphy's law. If it can go wrong it will. I don't have much to offer I just hope your feeling better.

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Hey FUD,

Did you contact your insurance company?

Make sure the clinic doesn't try to charge you OR your insurance.

You're "in their system," and they just may try to process you for an office visit, even though you weren't seen.

Idiots.

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<BLOCKQUOTE><font size="1" face="Verdana, Arial">quote:</font><HR>Originally posted by Mike Irwin:
Hey FUD,

Did you contact your insurance company?

Make sure the clinic doesn't try to charge you OR your insurance.

You're "in their system," and they just may try to process you for an office visit, even though you weren't seen.

Idiots.

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If they DO try to charge for anything, they will get a hell of alot of fines!!!! Insurance fraud is a $10,000 fine per claim!!!! Each billed item is a "claim" by the way.

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You're lucky you didn't get shot at by an antsy police officer. I suspect that the clinic lady told the police only that someone was in the building, not that you had called them and begged them to let you out.

"Press charges"??? For breaking & entering, presumably. And yeah, you could (though probably not should) have responded that you wished to press charges for unlawful detention.

And if the clinic gives you any more grief (billing your insurance, for instance), you could write them a nice little certified letter mentioning that magic word, lawsuit. You'd probably have a case.

For me, the worst part of FUD stories is that they could happen to anyone and that, even sitting here in my easy chair with lots of time to think about it, I can't come up with a better way to handle it than FUD did. This story like most his others has only one real lesson, as far as I can tell: Life's risky.

pax

"Every failure teaches a man something, to wit, that he will probably fail again." -- H.L. Mencken
 
FUD,

I bet they just asked the lady that so they could put in their report that she explicitly declined to press charges.

Be well.

Ledbetter
 
not real sure but I'd think you could file charges for the unlawful detainment and maybe negligence...also the fact that you were rufused treatment due to their screw up...mental and emotional damages...so on...

Sounds like your luck and my luck are the same-different stories certainly but just too many to be coincindence...who says God doesn't have a sense of humor?

Since I'd lived in florida [Lake County] for many years and have freinds there...hope one day I can have a beer with ya...be an interesting conversation. :)

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Fud,
My comment earlier about the value of your posts and how they make me think.......I take it back ;)

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A great example of the fact that, if you're not on your home turf, you're guilty until proven innocent. Or as an old friend wrote in a song, "God don't watch out for people with out of state license plates".
 
You should have looked around for the "sample closet". Every clinic and primary care office usually has a closet stuffed with free samples of different meds provided by the many friendly pharmaceutical reps in whose sales territory the office is located. You seem to have had the same chronic problem for a long time and know what meds you needed to be on, so you should have stuffed your pockets with 10-14 days worth, and walked out. If you had any doubt about the dosage, you could have looked it up in the package insert or PDR; the office probably had several PDR's laying around. Then, later, you should have billed them for the office visit...



[This message has been edited by DocH (edited September 13, 2000).]
 
Fud, What was the name of that character with the personal rain cloud? I think it was Joe Btsflk, wasn't it? Maybe that should be Your handle here.
crankshaft
and to think I'M paranoid ( with good reason, of course!
 
FUD - I'm curious if the bim... er, woman who left you hanging said something like "Of course not!" when she was asked if she wanted to press charges or if she simple said, "No." as if to say "no, we'll let it go this time." If she had said or implied anything like the latter, I would have really been po'ed and probably would have been arrested at that point for what I would have said next.

[This message has been edited by Mal H (edited September 13, 2000).]
 
Fud...while back I offered you a crash place in northern Arizona if you came out on a recon run. Offer still good but you sleepin in the camper and we take seperate vehicles when goin to the village.

Sam...I'm not confused, just using my options.
 
An I thought I got in some strange situations! Mercy FUD please don't stand so close, the is not a cloud in the sky but lightning will still hit one of us, probably me! :)
 
Fud, I want YOU as my partner on patrol. I know this is selfish of me since you will the one they curse, spat at, throw things at, attack (but hopefully not shoot). You're the cheapest insurance I can get for myself.

Regarding the pressing of charges, they could but nothing would stick. First, there's burglary (but no trespassory entrance on your part), then there's trespassing (but you were there with their consent - until they locked you in). On the other hand, you can't sue for false imprisonment since they forgot that you were there. However, you can think about negligence as they had a duty to check the place before locking you in the building for the night. Naw, no jury would find you guilty and no DA would be crazy enough to try to prosecute you on this one. Besides, if the woman said yes, the cops would probably 849b you (release as meritless) and no court appearance would be required.
 
FUD, I repeat myself from other posts!! "YOU GOTTA GET RIGHT WITH GOD BUD!!!!! My what an exciting life, only the FUDMeister could tell it and live it. I first thought you just needed to get the heck out of Fla. now I'm convinced it's bad MoJo! You must have seriously pissed a VooDoo queen off! Quick, go kill a chicken, put it in a paper bag and at midnight go out in the front yard (turn the lights on) swing the paper bag in a circular motion around your head and wave an American flag saying, "come and get me ya dirty coppers". Do this every 3 minutes until one a.m. This won't cure the bad mojo but the neighors will either pack and leave or the cops will come and take you away. Anyway, I'm checking my anti-bad mojo book as we speak for other helpful actions which may help to get rid of the bad vibes. Thanks for the laugh FUD! As we say in NC, "I don't care what they say about you boy, you allright!
 
FUD, you are too cool. :cool:

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