Oregon Antis One-Up the Rest _ Merged Threads

Thanks MLeake for helping us out :)

I got an email from Senator Johnson as well, and she promised the same. It looks like she writes them instead of using a form.. Refreshing.

I rewrote the automailer form myself, it was a bit strong for my tastes.
 
Tickling,

I sent her a thank you email, and received a nice, short response about five minutes later.

Betsy Johnson answers these things herself. She's one of a very few I have encountered who do that.

Hopefully, her voters appreciate that.

Regards,

M
 
What IS it with these people?

Why does the fact that I own guns give them the belief that they have the magical right to come into my private residence?

I guess the fourth amendment has gone out the window. I can't for the life of me think of anything similar- ie, a piece of personal property used to justify this intrusive line of reasoning.

I would like to see a group of people show up at one of these authors' houses and demand to be let in to perform an inspection. Let's see how they like attempts on violations of their own privacy.
 
I addressed the issue of the previous Oregon gun ban legislation back in January by sending some 29 emails to Oregon Senate members. I got only 4 responses: Close, Johnson, Roblan and Whitsett.

Some were deleted without opening. I guess they didn't like the subject matter.

Over years of experience these numbers don't surprise me at all.

I sent Governor Kitzhaber a letter reminding him that the people of the state of Oregon voted for the death penalty and he was going against the will of the people by putting his personal moratorium on executions. He didn't respond.

Disappointed? Yep. It doesn't say much for the people who've been elected to run our state.
 
The OFF issued a followup alert requesting that people contact our two pro-gun Democrat senators and express support and thanks for their stance on guns. Also indicating that Obama is behind it (no evidence).

Oregon's Only No Compromise Gun Lobby - Oregon Firearms Federation
OFF ALERT 02.23.13

HB 3200 Follow Up, Friendly Democrats.

As you can imagine, the news of the introduction of HB 3200, the gun ban bill, has gotten a lot of attention. Many of you may have had trouble accessing our website yesterday due to the volume of hits it was getting. Some have had a problem using our automailer.

Rest assured we are working to resolve the problem and we will do whatever is necessary to continue to serve gun owners in Oregon. We appreciate your patience and thank you for your efforts to make your voices heard.

Clearly HB3200 has struck a nerve. Many are astonished that a bill so clearly intended to be an open attack on the rights of gun owners, including their right to be free from warrantless searches, could ever be introduced in Oregon. This just proves that the people behind it are simply lying when they say they “respect the Second Amendment, but....”

Let’s face it, we have our work cut out for us. While a bill this extreme would seem to have little chance of passing, anything can happen. It could be used to make the other gun restrictions seem “reasonable.” It could have been thrown out there in the hopes of another mass killing to exploit. Nothing is beneath these people. Nothing. So keep contacting your legislators and be prepared for anything.

We have been informed that legislators are receiving unusually high numbers of communications IN FAVOR of this awful bill. There are indications that these may be being generated by an organization far more sophisticated than the local anti-gun groups who simply lack the ability to do something like this.

As you know, the Obama administration has made it their personal mission to pass gun restrictions locally with Joe Biden traveling the country to twist state legislators' arms. If the reports are accurate, they may well be behind it.

That’s why we are asking you to do something a bit out of the ordinary.

The Oregon House has several Democratic members who support gun rights. The Oregon Senate has only two. That’s right, out of 16 Democratic Oregon Senators, only two support your right to own a firearm.

As you can imagine, those two are now under unbelievable pressure from the Democratic “leadership” and the other Democrats, to fold and join the majority in attacking your rights. They need your support and encouragement. I am hoping you’ll take just a moment to drop them both a short note telling them to stay strong in the face of the withering opposition they are facing.

The two are Senator Arnie Roblan and Senator Betsy Johnson.

If you would take a moment to email them, or leave a message at their office expressing your appreciation for their past support, it would mean a lot at a time when they are the lone voices of reason in the Democratic caucus.

Senator Arnie Roblan
503 986 1409
sen.arnieroblan@state.or.us


Senator Betsy Johnson
503 986 1716
sen.betsyjohnson@state.or.us

Thank you!
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Thanks for the heads up Ralgha.

Emails sent. I wish Betsy Johnson was my senator! The more I talk to her the more impressed I am, definitely contributing to her campaign.
 
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An email reply (not to me though) from Representative Jeff Barker, who is a Democrat and also happens to be the chair of the judicial committee. I'm feeling better now, but we can't let up the pressure.

Thank you for your email.

I am opposed to any new restrictions on law abiding gun owners, including HB 3200. As both a retired cop w/ 31 years in law enforcement and a Democrat, I frequently remind my legislative colleagues that law abiding gun owners pose no threat to public safety. I have opposed, and will continue to oppose, efforts to ban CHL holders from K-12 schools and higher educational campus, so called "assault weapon" bans, and any other unecessary restrictions on Oregonians' 2nd Amendment rights.

Thanks again for your email and please feel free to contact me again on this or any other issue.

Jeff Barker
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Another reply...

... this one from a staffer, as opposed to the Senator, but still it's a response in our favor:

Please sign up for Senator Whitsett’s newsletter: http://www.leg.state.or.us/whitsett/home.htm

Thank you for your comments and thoughts regarding HB 3200. Senator Whitsett opposes any further restrictions on possession of firearms and actually opposes many of those already in place, both at the State and Federal levels.

We encourage you to call the sponsors and co-sponsors of HB 3200.

Rep. Greenlick – 503-986-1433
Rep. Bailey – 503-986-1442
Rep. Buckley – 503-986-1405
Rep. Dembro – 503-986-1445
Rep. Frederick – 503-986-1443
Rep. Keny-Guyer – 503-986-1446
Rep. Read – 503-986-1427
Rep. Reardon – 503-986-1428
Rep. Tomei – 503-986-1441
Sen. Burdick – 503-986-1718
Sen. Dingfelder – 503-986-1723
Sen. Hass – 503-986-1714
Sen. Monnes Anderson – 503-986-1725
Sen. Monroe – 503-986-1724
Sen. Shields – 503-986-1722
Sen. Steiner Hayward – 503-986-1717

Again, thank you for your thoughts regarding this matter.

Warm regards,
Sandy Sumner

Legislative Assistant
Office of Doug Whitsett
Senator, District 28
P: (503) 986-1728
F: (503) 986-1971


If you would like to sign up to receive news updates from Senator Whitsett, go to http://www.leg.state.or.us/learnmore/ to begin receiving e-newsletters, press releases, legislative reports and other important information.
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Sponsors and co-sponsors of HB 3200:

Rep. Greenlick – 503-986-1433
Rep. Bailey – 503-986-1442
Rep. Buckley – 503-986-1405
Rep. Dembro – 503-986-1445
Rep. Frederick – 503-986-1443
Rep. Keny-Guyer – 503-986-1446
Rep. Read – 503-986-1427
Rep. Reardon – 503-986-1428
Rep. Tomei – 503-986-1441 S
Sen. Burdick – 503-986-1718
Sen. Dingfelder – 503-986-1723
Sen. Hass – 503-986-1714
Sen. Monnes Anderson – 503-986-1725
Sen. Monroe – 503-986-1724
Sen. Shields – 503-986-1722
Sen. Steiner Hayward – 503-986-1717
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These are the sponsors and co-sponsors of HB 3200. Call them, I know it's annoying, but it's harder to ignore phone calls :D

We also need to remember these names when they're up for reelection...

EDIT: MLeake beat me to it :p
 
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Rep. Sal Esquivel has now replied...

... and while this is more of a mass mailer, it's extremely supportive of our side.

As others have as well, I have received well over one thousand emails regarding HB 3200 which was introduced last week.

This type of legislation makes me very sad and disheartened. Our Constitution with the Amendments has stood for hundreds of years and to have individuals who have taken an oath to uphold the Constitution decide to do their best to rewrite it is despicable.

I have attached to this email a list of The Fifteen with all their contact information. Take just a moment to send them an email or give them a call and express your concerns regarding their willingness to “infringe” upon your Second Amendment Rights. Please be polite – no threatening – but firm with your convictions.

Many of you have already received the following but for those of you who have not, I have included my recent statement on Gun Rights.

“A well-regulated Militia, being necessary to the security of a Free State, the right of the people to keep and bear Arms, shall not be infringed.”

Please know that as far as I am concerned there is no wavering on the Second Amendment. In my opinion the Second Amendment gives us as US Citizens the right to protect ourselves, our families and our property. It states that we have the right to form a militia if this country were to be invaded and specifically gives us the right to bear arms to keep our own government in check if necessary.

Limiting us, as Americans, access to guns in general or to specific guns and ammunition is a blatant affront to the Constitution of the United States and specifically – the Second Amendment.

Now, is there work to be done – most certainly – but we need to focus on what needs to be done and what will make a difference. Our national and state mental health programs need to be examined closely and changes made where appropriate. We need to reexamine the reasons we declare different areas “gun free” zones. Does it make sense to announce that our schools and our theaters are “gun free” zones and then NOT expect those areas to be targeted?

Recently I had an individual verbally reprimand me for using the statement “common sense” – but I believe that we need to apply common sense to these situations. If you are a criminal or suffering from mental health issues and you determine you want to hurt someone are you going to go to the local police station where you know there are people who protect themselves with firearms? I think not – Common Sense tells you to find an area where there are no guns allowed.

I believe there is much work to be done in order to deter individuals from harming themselves and others with any weapons – guns being the main topic of discussion at this time. It horrifies me to think of what happened in Connecticut at the school and in theater in Colorado – but limiting law abiding American Citizens access to firearms is not the answer.

Thank you so much for corresponding with me on these issues – I look forward to hearing from you again. I am here to assist you in any way possible and I appreciate you staying in touch.

Please take just a moment and go to my new website www.salesquivel.us, contact - and sign up to stay in touch. It just takes a moment to fill out the request form and I can add you to my email list to keep you updated on gun control and other important issues you are specifically interested in.

Thank you
Sal

Rep. Sal Esquivel
District 6
509-986-1406

www.rep.salesquivel.com
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And yet another in support

Another Oregon rep responds in support:

Morgan Leake,

Thank you for your comments about HB 3200. Sadly, we are seeing more and more attempts by lawmakers to curtail the 2nd Amendment rights of citizens who are following the law while not attacking the real problem which is cracking down on violent felons breaking the law with illegal access to firearms.

I will encourage my colleagues at the State Capitol to oppose this legislation and work on more productive ways to enforce the laws we already have on the books to reduce crime. I remain committed to protecting gun owner’s rights in Oregon.

Sincerely,
Kim Thatcher

Representative, House District #25
900 Court St. NE
Salem, OR 97301
503-986-1425
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Someone should ask them to consider going to convicted criminals homes unannounced to search for guns instead of responsible law abiding gun owners.

Yeah it violates their rights but that would actually "get guns out of the hands of criminals" a lot quicker than violating the rights of law abiding citizens.

I mean to automatically target the law abiding citizen that is no threat to anyone without considering that they are NOW letting convicted criminals that can not legally own a gun "own" unreported guns flies in the face of sound reasoning.
 
Support voiced from Dennis Richardson

Seems to have come from him, too, as opposed to coming from a staffer:

Morgan,

Unfortunately, there are several bills being introduced during this legislation session which would further erode the rights of responsible adults. And this proposed new law, like so many others already on the books, may not be effective in stopping violent criminals from getting their hands on firearms and hurting innocent people. I encourage you to make calls to the Co-Sponsors of House Bill 3200 and let them know how you feel. See list of Co-Sponsors below.

Rather than punish law abiding citizens, I would rather focus on measures we can take to prevent violent offenders from harming others in our community. I really appreciate your support of our 2nd Amendment rights and will do my best to oppose HB 3200.

Thank you for your comments.

Dennis Richardson
State Representative
House District 4
900 Court Street H-373
Salem, OR 97301

www.leg.state.or.us/richardson
503.986.1404
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I hope our Oregon members are taking note of who their friends are at the Legislature.

M
 
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From the office of Senator Larry George...

From a staffer, but on point:

Sen George L <sen.larrygeorge@state.or.us>
9:16 AM (8 hours ago)
to me

Thank you for taking the time to contact Sen. George regarding current efforts to restrict the Second Amendment. Sen. George is a strong supporter of the Second Amendment and is not supporting any of the efforts to infringe upon gun rights.

He believes it is important to focus efforts on supporting mental health programs in order to help curb violence rather than attempting to treat the symptoms that reflect our lack of commitment to this important area.

Once again, thank you for taking the time to contact Sen. George.

Jesse

Jesse Alexander
Chief of Staff
Sen. Larry George
(503) 986-1713
sen.larrygeorge@state.or.us
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And from Representative Brad Witt:

Just received this one:

Rep Witt <rep.bradwitt@state.or.us>
1:10 AM (16 hours ago)
to me

Thank you for sharing your opposition to HB 3200 with me.

I consider this bill one of the most radical anti-gun proposals before the Oregon Legislature. Any proposal to criminalize telescoping stocks (trap guns), thumbhole stocks (target rifles), conversion kits, or their possession is a direct threat to our Constitutional rights.

This bill is sponsored by the following legislators:

Representative Mitch Greenlick
Representative Lew Frederick
Representative Jules Bailey
Representative Tobias Read
Representative Peter Buckley
Representative Jeff Reardon
Representative Michael Dembrow
Representative Carolyn Tomei
Senator Ginny Burdick
Senator Rod Monroe
Senator Jackie Dingfelder
Senator Chip Shields
Senator Mark Haas
Senator Elizabeth Steiner Hayward
Senator Laurie Monnes Anderson

Since this is their bill and not my own, you may want to share your opinions of HB 3200 with them.

Rest assured that I have every intention of opposing this bill. I will not allow otherwise law abiding Oregonians to be prosecuted as criminals, nor will I stand idly by and allow their otherwise legal firearms to be confiscated in violation of the Second Amendment to the United States Constitution.

Thank you for standing up against the outlandish proposal that is HB 3200.

Sincerely,
Brad Witt

State Representative
District 31
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It's beginning to seem like the sponsors of this bill are the only antis in the legislature.
 
MORE Anti Gun Bills in Oregon

While not nearly as bad as HB3200 (which seeks to ban pretty much everything), this collection of bills needs to be shot down in a big way. HB3200 was probably introduced to make these bills look ok.

SB 760: Requires a victim to run away (or attempt to) from an attacker before using lethal force.

SB 758: Requires gun owners to purchase liability insurance for every firearm they own. Such a thing doesn't even exist.

SB 699: Makes the state capitol building a gun-free zone (also known as a shooting gallery for criminals).

SB 796: Introduces a requirement to pass a firing range test to get a concealed handgun license. There's currently no requirement to show proficiency.

These bills are sponsored by the usual bald-faced liars: Ginny Burdick , Floyd Prozanski, Jackie Dingfelder and Michael Dembrow

I've already sent my first email regarding these bills to the judiciary committee, along with a bill for wasting my time with all these calls and emails.

http://www.oregonfirearms.org/avalanche-of-anti-rights-bills-introduced
 
One of the staffers here mentioned that since they can't do anything meaningful, they're just trying to annoy and/or make gun ownership a burden.. He was obviously right.

SB 760, from my understanding of Oregon law would modify our Castle Doctrine and require us to retreat from our homes.

Since it modifies ORS 161.225

http://www.oregonlaws.org/ors/161.225
 
I wonder if these people would feel any different about firearms if someone posted their names and street addresses. As an Oregonian, I'm fed up.
 
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