One out of every 3,600 NRA Members showed up for the SAS_AIMM defense of our 2ed amme

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ernest2

New member
We in the firearms community should be
extreemly proud of our commitment to our
firearms, to our beloved Second Ammendment
Rights and Freedoms and to our sport.

Last Sunday , 50,000 mislead, misinformed moms rallied in Washington DC
to try to take away
our beloved rights and freedoms.



We responded with a counter rally,
SAS_AIMM of 1,000 true patriots.


We , who care so very deeply about the USA and the Second Ammendment, were so concerned that we attended in the fraction
of 1 out of every 3,600 of the amount of
the NRA membership.

We were so committed to our cause that
we were outnumbered 50 to 1.

We cared so greatly that 1/3,600 of
the amount in the NRA membership bothered to attend.

In spite of this dismal showing,
those that did bother to go, did
an excellent job of protecting the
rights of the others in the firearms
community not so inclined.

I have extreemly mixed feelings about this.

I am ashamed of our dismal showing
numberswise and proud as all get out
of the fine job and hard work done by those attending.

This " I don't have to bother to go" attitude, because someone else will protect
my second ammendment rights for me; THIS
BAD ATTITUDE NEEDS TO STOP.

This " I CANT BE BOTHERED" thing
IS GOING TO LOSS US
THE RIGHTS & THE FREEDOMS OF THE
SECOND AMMENDMENT.

We have been patting ourselves on the back, all over tfl , for the past week,
for the hard work done by 1/3600 thousandth
of the amount of the NRA membership.
In my opinion, the back patting was truely earned by the Second Ammendment Sisters and those who helped and attended.

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Many of us really do need to get more
involved before it is too late and we
end up like Canada and Australia and
Great Britin.
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That being said, I dismount the soapbox
deeply regreting feeling the need to have had to say it.

But, if this gets just a few more people
active,it will have done some good
for our cause.

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We had more than 1,000 folks there. I thought 2,000, some estimates are as high as 5,000. (granted, some members brought non-member friends or kids)

Also, we didn't have celebrities and corporate sponsorship to pay for nice buses like they did. We didn't have Melissa Ethridge giving a free concert. We didn't have Rosie, Ophra, and the White House spreading the word.

Your point still stands, but remember, this wasn't an NRA event either.

That said, our Maryland gun club has 3,000 members. We *could* have brought 10,000 people!

PaulB
NRA, GOA, LEAA, MDCL, C.A.N.
Fight 4 Your Rights Homepage

[This message has been edited by fight4yourrights (edited May 20, 2000).]
 
Good points, but I'll tell you one thing about this: I for one, as a MALE, was reluctant to attend the SAS rally in my state, because I was unsure of my usefulness or helpfulness in being there at all. I thought it was for mother's only, or wives/sons/husbands of mothers. The only "mother" in my life is my mother, and she wasn't attending, so I couldn't be there to support HER. Give me a general pro-gun march in my state, and I'M THERE, without question!!!
 
Only 10 percent of gun owners are even connected to the internet. How were the other 90 percent even supposed to hear about the march? It's not like the SAS had millions of dollars in financial backing or had the biased press on their side. At the last minute, after we finally did start to get some press coverage, airline tickets are the most expensive.

I admit gun owners need to do more and they can, but where we kick butt is in the voting booth. Most gun owners have at least one full time job and families to take care of. Wait until after November 7th before you start casting too many stones. ;)

Joe
 
Ernest;

Right on! Whether NRA members or not, there are probably 1 million gun owners within a 4 hour drive of DC. I was at the march and would guess closest to the 2,000 figure. This was a dismal showing.

As for being a male, that was a concern of mine until SAS stated that males were welcome. There were daddies and sons at the MMM event.

I realize everyone is busy, but I guess they will have the time to register their guns, then turn them in, which seem to be the next steps.

As a recent member of the same gun club as fight4yourrights, that makes me, him, the webmaster and some others that I don't know who were at the march. Let's call it a wildly high estmate of 30 from AGC. One percent turnout from a local club?

Of course we all need to vote, but based on past performance, how many will get off their butts to go to the polls?

Granted, the MMM had much more publicity than SAS. However, even the Washington Post carried at least 3 articles on SAS. Many other papers across the country also did. There are 5,000+ TFLers with Internet access.
Don't gun owners talk to each other?
 
I do not want to hurt anyone's feelings, throw any stones, nor anything of the kind, but please let me say this.
For almost 7 years now I have been flat on my back off and on , due to medical illnesses.
I have been poked and proded by doctors, nurses , ect - I have nearly died 3 times to save my right leg, in the past 2 1/4 years.
I didn't have the time , the energy, nor the money to attend that march on D.C on May 14th,2000, BUT TRUST ME , I FOUND THE MONEY, FOUND THE ENERGY AND FOUND THE RIDE. I was there people.
My husband owns a gun shop- we shoot and hunt when I am able to get around and you can not beieve how many times we are asked
What is going on in the political field these days with our rights? What the end results of that question usually amounts to , is 90% of hunters, shooters , ect walking out before we can even tell them
the whole story, because they don't have time, or they don't want to hear scary , or
stupid things like that! Can you imagine that? Well please try hard to because we deal with it every day, every week, every month of every year. And let me tell you , it makes me sick!
Now I don't live any of your lives, and I don't want anyone feeling sorry for the health problems I live with in mine, but I don't care to hear excuses either.
I have just 2 questions to ask , and remembering ,that even though I may sound a little displeased at the moment, we are all on the same side folks. To stop anti gun grabbers from taking our rights away!
But please just let me ask 2 questions here-
#1 If while I was getting raped and beaten , many , many times in the past 38 years, and you knew about it, Would you have helped me out , or SAID I AM SORRY , BUT I DON'T HAVE TIME RIGHT NOW.
#2- WHEN THEY COME TO GET OUR GUNS AND TAKE ALL OUR RIGHTS , WILL YOU BE THERE TO HELP
FIGHT AGAINST IT, RUN, OR SIMPLY SAY WHEN IT IS ALL OVER , GEE, I'M SORRY ,BUT I DIDN'T HAVE TIME ? Please will at least one person
calmy and nicely respond with a good answer.
As I had stated, I am not against anyone of you, I am one of you- I shoot, hunt and carry, but please give me the liberty of an answer.
Casey At Bat
 
I drove 1500 miles round trip alone with a child. Want to guess what my answer is? :)

The occasion was happy and sad at once. It's wonderful to know there are others who care. It's sad to know there were so few. Not being able to get to DC is no excuse. There were rallies in most major cities. If there wasn't one near you, why not?


A question from me, too. Do you think the march would have been more successful if it had concentrated in individual cities, rather than that nation's capital? It really would have been easier for most of us to make it to a city within 2 or 3 hours of us (or less) than to travel to one end of the country. I'd like to see the whole thing continue, but I've thought that it might be best to do several well-attended marches at once, than one big one that only a few can attend.

Colombe
 
"We didn't have Melissa Ethridge giving a free concert."

I think that was Melissa Manchester, the 70's pop singer who did "Midnight Blue," as in "Wouldn't you give your hand to A friend? Baby it's not the end. And I think we can make it...one more time, if we try. One more time for all the old times, Midnight Blue..."

I am still holding out for Melissa Ethridge to be a closet gunny. At a recent music awards show (hosted by Rosie O'Donnell) Ethridge, Sara Mclaughlin and Cheryl Crow were giving an award for best new female artist (won by Christina Agulara over Brittany Speers). Rosie introduced them as Charlie's Angels and Ethridge acknowleged the intro with a double-handed pistol hold (high-ready) (or is it port-arms?) by her head as she flicked her head back. O'Donnel also made remarks about Puffy Combs and Jennifer Lopez...she was glad that Puffy had just left the building.

Can you count the anti-gunnie named in the above paragraph.

Lastly -- Futo Inu said:
"Good points, but I'll tell you one thing about this: I for one, as a MALE, was reluctant to attend the SAS rally in my state, because I was unsure of my usefulness or helpfulness in being there at all. I thought it was for mother's only,"

You _are_ joking, correct?

Rick
 
Sorry RickD - Melissa Ethridge was at the MMM singing with gusto. So was Melissa Manchester. They are both Commies.

Come and Get Em!!

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"As nightfall does not come at once, neither does oppression.
In both instances there is a twilight when everything remains
seemingly unchanged. And it is in such twilight that we all
must be most aware of change in the air - however slight -
lest we become unwitting victims of the darkness."
--Supreme Court Justice William O. Douglas
 
Rick,
I am sory if I put things out there alittle abruptly, but no , we did not want any one that wanted to be there turned away.

As for your joking -right???
Well who are you talking to- if it is me you are asking that to- can we talk?

I assume you are talking about the rapes and beatings over 38 years, if I am correct continue on- if I am wrong disregard-----

No I am not kidding I owuld never joke about something like that- why so much, well
good ole Johnny Law only helps certain ones of us, unfortunately for me, I was not one of them and since for the first 18 years , off and on it was my father and brother, you maybe can imagine the childhood I had- I din't get to think about things such as which friend would I play with that day, r which toy, it was more like what survival
technique could I use today to amke it through one more-
When I got out of hte house was when I got married, only to discover after 1 year of marriage , that I was in and with the same type of situation. Unfortunately, by then it was almost a normal way of life for me- Oh no, I didn't like it , but i honestly believed at that point that , that was what women were on this earth for- silly me.
When he started going after my children, that was the last straw! Our amrriage ended almost 10 years later- I htnk God for that everyday, because now I know it wasn't my fault and I don't have to worry about it any longer-not to mention the fact hat I now know I am really a good person, it was them that had the problem- my only problem was surviving, and I have doen that very well, I would say.
As for hunting , shooting and fishing, yes that is also true, as well as that I carry
every day of my life from now on, because I can! In fact , surprisingly as it may seem, I even have a gunsmith license.
Please don't feel sorry for me , it is no ones sympathy that I want- to ban together, so that no one else will know the fear I have dealt with in the past is what I would like and that means sticking together and fighting the anti-gun , at many costs.
As for having many min rallies in several locations, well may work and may not, my guess is the more people in one place at one time, is the best defense.
Casull
 
In self-defense, I for one wanted to attend, but not all of us CAN drive 1500 miles round trip to make it (although I applaud Colombe for doing so :) ). I didn't find out about the whole thing until the day before it happened, and also don't have the finances to make such a trip, but believe me, I would have been there if possible. I didn't see that they were having a rally in my area either, otherwise I would have at least attended that one.

Not everyone who didn't show up just doesn't " want to be bothered," some of us just couldn't make it, period.

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"Liberty or death, What we so proudly hail... Once you provoke Her, rattling of Her tail- Never begins it, NEVER- But once engaged never surrenders, showing the fangs of rage. DON'T TREAD ON ME!!

"Many's the men who've battled foe
many the number slain,
many the lads have fallen though
Scotland shall rise again."
 
If I had not promised to photograph a wedding on Saturday, I would have been in DC. Luckily (or not) there was the march in Chicago. And, while we all did, I think, a good job there just wasn't the turn-out I expected. Granted,
there was not the advance notice and hype that the MMM'ers got, but to have less than 100 people in a city of Chicago's size was shameful.

Maybe the next march. Or maybe not, if the trap houses are open.

Dick
 
I think the main thing we need to concentrate on here, is stopping the anti-gunners, But we all need to stick together
and be where we can as often as we can-
Iam assuming that most all of you know about the next S.A.S march on Father's Day-
Do it close to home, doesn't cost much and takes very little time.
Casull
 
Ohio SAS report:

My wife and I attended the event in DC. My wife is the Ohio coordinator for SAS-AIMM. She got involved with SAS after she picked up some literature at a local gun show.

Since there was no Ohio coordinator at the time, she volunteered to do what she could. We mailed out info packs, petitions, posters, press kits and such to over 400 gun shops, shooting ranges and gun clubs in the state. We did three separate mailings to each of these businesses and got almost NO RESPONSE!

My wife and I personally set up at four local gun shows and, while there was ststed support for show attendees, we couldn't get people to commit to going to DC.

We even had a heck of a deal on a round-trip bus fare of $26 from the Cleveland/Akron area. In fact, with just two weeks before the march, we had only two paid riders! Fortunately, we were able to get the bus paid for using donations from some of the local shops and the gun show promoters. We had only 30 riders on the bus, and that included a handful that drove down from Michigan to ride on our bus! The MMMs had FOUR FULL BUSSES from Cleveland alone!

The apathy from the gun owners around here is very disappointing!

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Remember, just because you are not paranoid doesn't mean they are not out to get you!
 
Apathy my pasty white butt.

Most of us WORK, ya know? After attending some 15 rallies this year alone, and taking time off later for the Libertarian National Convention and the August meet, I'm straining the boss' mercy.

Real life sucks, but the bills gotta be paid.
 
Cougar,
Was that the bus that was met around Akron ?
Because we went with Ohio people and our donations got all 16 Micigan people through the whole thing free-
I am not able to work, so I suppose that makes a big difference.
If it weren't for our local Gun Clubs and a few really supportive people we would not have been able to pull that off, though.
Casull
 
I was on a business trip in Toronto, Kanada. One of the reasons we lose all our rights is because in general, we are working hard to get an education or support our family and to pay the taxes that fund those socialists who have nothing better to do all day than sit around and petition the government for things. Granted this was a Sunday, but still how many of you have time for this? Most of us just want to be left alone and we have a tyrannical minority that has been whipped up into a frenzy about guns and tobacco and SUVs etc. running this country.

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The first step is registration, the second step is confiscation, the final step is subjugation.
 
<BLOCKQUOTE><font size="1" face="Verdana, Arial">quote:</font><HR>Originally posted by RickD:
Lastly -- Futo Inu said:
"Good points, but I'll tell you one thing about this: I for one, as a MALE, was reluctant to attend the SAS rally in my state, because I was unsure of my usefulness or helpfulness in being there at all. I thought it was for mother's only,"

You _are_ joking, correct?

Rick[/quote]


Strange how you quote my question, including the comma within the quotes at the end of your quote of me, but leave out the remainder of the quote. :confused: No, I'm not joking at all. Read the remainder please: "[...] or wives/sons/husbands of mothers. The only "mother" in my life is my mother, and she wasn't attending [edited: because she doesn't give a flip about RKBA or guns], so I couldn't be there to support HER." So, was I wrong? If so, then it sounds like a seriously publicity problem on the part of the SAS promoters, for me, someone who reads a fair amount on the net, to not even get the message that all males can & should attend. No, it's no joke.
 
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