Nice to see that many like the older firearms, as I do. Do I think 25 years ago is old, not really. When I stated older than 85, I did not mean that anything around 1985 was old. I consider myself young, so if I thought that 1985 was old, that would make me old. I have been 39 for over twenty years now. Anyway love to see some of the replies here. I have to say some brought up a good points about loosing you prized gun because of an incident. I can tell you I don't own anything close to a ten thousand dollar gun, but I do own some brand new guns in the over thousand range. Old or new it doesn't matter to me. If I loose it to an investigation I have more important issues to worry about. Most likely that firearm would returned to me if aquitted. If not, "well" I think you know what that would mean.