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What are the markings on the first rifle (carcano) and length of the rifle? It's hard to tell from the pics but i wanna say it's a sporter m41 as it doesn't look long enough to be a m91. Take note of the straight bolt handle as the other models have a turned down bolt I believe. Again figure out the markings on the first as it might be a real collectable but odds are it's a run of the mill. I purchased a beat up m91 some years ago that turned out to be a marksmanship rifle to my surprise. Also, if the rifle is safe and you intend to shoot it you will need to find appropriate clips as its somewhat unique.
 
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Smoke & Recoil: Also with the Springfield, have the serial number checked...early serial numbers had weak receivers making them unsafe to shoot in later life.

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MM: That's an issue with the 03's I believe. No A3's had weak receivers
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MM is correct. There are NO low number M1903A1s. They were all made long after the Double Heat Treatment was introduced.

The 'A3s are accurate, safe and extremely strong actions. A majority of the Mann's used the 'A3 action for this reason. (Mann Accuracy device to test military ammo.)
 
also a quick glance and who made it can tell imediately if it's in the clear or not. only rifles made by springfield and Rock Island armory are subject to the low serial rule. all remington and smith corona made rifles are safe.

as all 1903A3s were made by remington and smith corona one wouldn't even have to bother looking at the serial number. if it's not an A3, the same quick model check can save research time if it's a 1903A1 and 1903 MK1 as all A1 and MARK I(MKI is easy because it has an oval cutout on the left side of the receiver) springfields postdate the heat treatment changes.
 
The Carcano is a m91 made in 1916. Not a lot of value with the stock cut down, but could be restored if you wanted. While an old design, the carcano is as safe to shoot as any other military rifle with proper ammunition.
 
If the 1903 has any rifling left, it should shoot & shoot well. The 1903 I inhereted from my dad is probably the most accurate rifle I own.

The carcano.. might make a good jack handle?
 
"The first rifle is a Mannlicher- Carcano in either 6.5x52 IIRC or 7.35. but I forget the MM's for the case length."

51mm.

The 7.35 is simply the 6.5x52 necked up and shortened a tiny bit.

But, the OP's rifle is NOT 7.35, not with that rear sight. That's an early Carcano.
 
Yup, in the fifth picture down, the 916 on the barrel shank is the date, 1916. The caliber mark 6.5 is also visible on the top of the barrel shank. The arsenal that manufactured it should be there too, but I can't make it out in any of the pictures.
 
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