I don't mean quick draw/fast draw with a Hollywood holster and a single action but old fashioned in the sense that it isn't discussed that much here. Or maybe I just miss it when it's mentioned. And I'm also aware there was a difference in quick draw and fast draw back when they were popular sports fifty years ago. That's where Jeff Cooper came in, you recall.
This is not a thread about action type, ammo type, caliber or plastic versus metal. It is about getting your gun into action and getting off your first shot (not necessarily THE first shot). And here I'm mostly thinking about from a carry, not from your bedside table or from under your pillow.
It should be a given that getting your gun, and I mean handgun, into action is critical in a self defense situation. I guess it must be practically an assumed thing since no one seems to go into the subject very deeply, if at all. It can be a problematic issue but maybe we're just assuming away the problem.
I first have to admit that I don't do this so much anymore but at one time I was very interested in the subject and devoted some of my spare time to practice. It can be fun, especially when no one shoots back, and I suspect this was one of the things that got a lot of people interested in guns and shooting, probably more so in the past than now. But it does't take long to run into a brick wall.
For one thing, there is some degree of real danger with live ammunition and there simply aren't many places to practice, at least with live ammunition. Then you run the risk of gaming the thing and using gear that you wouldn't really use to carry the thing. Ever notice the gear they use in so-called practical shooting competitions? So finally you get around to trying out your gear (and your ideas, preconceived and otherwise) with "real" stuff. Suddenly it gets so difficult that your are tempted to forget the whole thing, just the way your finally quit playing with knives. Yet it is a basic problem with a carry handgun, both concealed and openly carried, less so with the under the pillow method.
What have others here done in the way of practice and what has been your experiences both good and bad and has anyone come up with any ideas of their own on the subject.
I will be the first to admit to having dropped my gun at least once and to have finally decided that flipping off the safety on a single action auto is much more difficult (for me) than anyone else here will admit to and finally, a large frame S&W revolver in any caliber is going to be difficult.
This is not a thread about action type, ammo type, caliber or plastic versus metal. It is about getting your gun into action and getting off your first shot (not necessarily THE first shot). And here I'm mostly thinking about from a carry, not from your bedside table or from under your pillow.
It should be a given that getting your gun, and I mean handgun, into action is critical in a self defense situation. I guess it must be practically an assumed thing since no one seems to go into the subject very deeply, if at all. It can be a problematic issue but maybe we're just assuming away the problem.
I first have to admit that I don't do this so much anymore but at one time I was very interested in the subject and devoted some of my spare time to practice. It can be fun, especially when no one shoots back, and I suspect this was one of the things that got a lot of people interested in guns and shooting, probably more so in the past than now. But it does't take long to run into a brick wall.
For one thing, there is some degree of real danger with live ammunition and there simply aren't many places to practice, at least with live ammunition. Then you run the risk of gaming the thing and using gear that you wouldn't really use to carry the thing. Ever notice the gear they use in so-called practical shooting competitions? So finally you get around to trying out your gear (and your ideas, preconceived and otherwise) with "real" stuff. Suddenly it gets so difficult that your are tempted to forget the whole thing, just the way your finally quit playing with knives. Yet it is a basic problem with a carry handgun, both concealed and openly carried, less so with the under the pillow method.
What have others here done in the way of practice and what has been your experiences both good and bad and has anyone come up with any ideas of their own on the subject.
I will be the first to admit to having dropped my gun at least once and to have finally decided that flipping off the safety on a single action auto is much more difficult (for me) than anyone else here will admit to and finally, a large frame S&W revolver in any caliber is going to be difficult.