Old CCI .38spec Ammo.

"armored tip" simply means full metal jacket.

Translation, from the top:

These center fire CI .38 Special caliber cartridges have been manufactured with prime, select high quality (probably top quality is a better translation) materials, subjected to rigorous ballistic quality control to obtain a product to satisfy most of the shooter's requirements.

The bullet is 10.2 grams (158 grains) with a lead tip and is specially lubricated to prevent damage to the gun, and contributes to obtaining a muzzle velocity of 261 meters per section (855 feet per second) with a pressure of 15,800 pounds per square inch."
 
I didn't get to shoot any of the rounds Yesterday as the weather was awful and it's an outdoor range and the wind was driving rain and hailstones into the covered shooting area and the temp was 1C (33F).... New Zealand, Southern hemisphere, Mid Winter... :mad:
I'll have to wait 'till next Sunday to shoot a few of 'em....

Cheers to all who replied
G
 
Would you be willing to discuss how many hoops you have to jump thru to purchase ammunition? Normally, what is the cost of ammunition there? I can buy 50 rounds of practice 38 special for about $23.00. Can you reload ammunition?
 
didn't get to shoot any of the rounds Yesterday as the weather was awful and it's an outdoor range and the wind was driving rain and hailstones into the covered shooting area and the temp was 1C (33F).... New Zealand, Southern hemisphere, Mid Winter...
I'll have to wait 'till next Sunday to shoot a few of 'em....
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That crud on the case is dissimilar metals corrosion and come with age of the ammo. No problem shooting it in my opinion. What I've done with some 1960s ammo that had corrosion is throw in it my case vibrator (reloading) and it comes out clean and shiny. :D

My daughter just graduated from College here in Southern California and will be attending Canterbury College in ChristChurch NZ starting first of the year. Her boyfriend lives in ChristChurch (NZ citizen) and is coming next month to get warm (heat wave here..haha) and hit Disneyland etc for his vacation. Nice lad.

I met him last October when he flew in for a wedding. He had never held a handgun so I took him as my guest to a shooting range....what a day for him.
He's now a handgun fan but sadly cannot buy them as we can...;)

I know I will be visiting my daughter in the future while she attends graduate school......a good excuse to visit your great Country..:D
 
OK. I haven't got any reloading facilities as yet.

Buying ammo isn't a problem I just go into a shop that sells it, show them my Firearms license and I can buy as much as I can afford.
Same with all caliber of rifles, shotguns (all long guns except hi-capacity mags, fully auto, assault/military rifles etc) and buy as many as I can afford at the time, no questions asked.

There isn't that much call for handgun ammo here as most firearms users are hunters, I think that virtually everyone and their grandmother in NZ are tooled up to hunt, therefore there isn't that much handgun ammo imported and with the recent "ammo shortage" very little of what was ordered arrived, primers also went very scarce.

To give you some idea New Zealand's area is square miles is 104,000 where as England (where I used to live) is 50,337 square miles with a population of over 57,000,000 (London has a population of just short of 8,000,000). New Zealand only has a total population of just over 4,000,000 therefore there isn't the same demand so the total stocks of handgun ammo are always low at best and with this recent ammo shortage (real or just perceived(?)) people have been panic buying so there isn't much left on the shelves.

Average prices vary, depending where you live, cheaper (just) in Auckland and as the Auckland metropolitan area has 1,400,000 total populous (which is just a big city and its suburbs) it's not surprising.
You can get ammo mail order but you have to get a certificate from the police to verify that you are eligible to purchase it and that all takes time and you have to use Snail Mail to send the certificate and you need a certificate for EACH mail order purchase be it ammo or guns.

Some prices from Auckland suppliers : -
http://www.seriousshooters.co.nz/.38-.357-xidg34967.html
http://www.shootingstuff.co.nz/index.php?page=shop.product_details&flypage=vmj_naru.tpl&product_id=1233&category_id=51&option=com_virtuemart&Itemid=17

I can get these S&B's for $40NZ for 50 from one supplier in Auckland : -
http://www.sellier-bellot.cz/pistol-and-revolver-detail.php?ammunition=9&product=84

But I suppose that's the price you pay for living in a country with a small population.

Anything else you would like to know, please ask.

Cheers
G
 
Hi Oceanbob,
I'm sure you will be impressed with the weather if you come over in summer (February is quite warm here, even on South Island:) ).
While on South Island you must go to see Milford Sound and don't forget your camera and I hope you like trekking around very beautiful, deserted areas. you can drive round parts of it or take a trip on a boat that will get you to parts you can't get to on foot.
Oh, and beware of Kiwi drivers... they really are crap and wouldn't last 5 minutes on the roads in the UK or USA :D .

If you're staying for a while it may be worth getting an NZ visitors permit that allows you to shoot/hunt/whatever while you are in NZ.
Some info on how to get one here : -
http://www.police.govt.nz/service/firearms

As for the Deposit my first thought (as I spent 25 years as a metallurgist) was dissimilar metal corrosion but I am now 99.9% convinced it is hardened lubricant as it can be easily removed and leaves no staining or corrosion pitting behind on the jacket and a poke with a finger nail removes it and a quick wipe with a cloth leaves to ammo looking like new.

All the best
Cheers
G
 
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Hi Oceanbob,
I'm sure you will be impressed with the weather if you come over in summer (February is quite warm here, even on South Island ).
While on South Island you must go to see Milford Sound and don't forget your camera and I hope you like trekking around very beautiful, deserted areas. you can drive round parts of it or take a trip on a boat that will get you to parts you can't get to on foot.
Oh, and beware of Kiwi drivers... they really are crap and wouldn't last 5 minutes on the roads in the UK or USA .

If you're staying for a while it may be worth getting an NZ visitors permit that allows you to shoot/hunt/whatever while you are in NZ.
Some info on how to get one here : -
http://www.police.govt.nz/service/firearms
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Gaz.....hey. thanks for the information and I will be visiting in the future..!

Be well, Bob :D
 
Gaz.....hey. thanks for the information and I will be visiting in the future..!
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I'm sure you will like it over here, and we don't have any snakes here at all and only a very few nasty spiders that the Aussies have kindly exported to us, no bears, cougars, scorpions etc and no large predators so walking around and camping in the bush is very safe.
Fishing is good here too, but we do get the odd sharks off shore including (rarely) a Great White.
There will probably be whales to see around Milford Sound and maybe the odd penguin.

All the best
G
 
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OK, just come back from the pistol club.
I borrowed my friends Python (Want one, want one!!!!) and shot 50 of 'em and only had 1 light strike which went off on the second strike. Decent groups (seeing as I hadn't shot this gun before) decent recoil, same as you would expect from Factory .38's, Cases were a little stiff to eject but that could be the cylinders (seeing as it's not my gun).
Apart from that there were no perceivable problems. I'll probably buy some more from the same place next week.

Cheers all
G
 
Oh yes they're very helpful, as I said earlier in the post, everyone and their grandmother is tooled up for hunting in NZ whether it be Rifles, Shotguns or Bows, they take shooting (well hunting at least) very seriously in New Zealand.

Cheers
G
 
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