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NYSJailer:

Yes, I agree that is the law and that you are permitted to have a handgun anywhere in the US, but that does not mean that the idiot brigade at JFK knows the law and will not arrest you and take their sweet time figuring things out.

This is not just a "theory" or an unsubstantiated "suspicion" of mine...this was told to me, directly over the phone, by SWAT Officer Sully; owner of the highly respected Defensive Edge (aka makers of The Grail Rifle that Rich Lucibella did the article on several months ago). His men were being hassled by morons at JFK who were gonna arrest them for not having NYC handgun permits!
 
I'm a NYC Premises Pistol License holder and I shoot at pistol ranges in Nassau county weekly; one being a range operated by a club I belong to, the other being a public range. I've been told by the operators of both ranges that when I enter Nassau county, I am bound by the laws governing handgun possession within that county. So, while I am in Nassau county at least, I'm legally allowed to shoot my pistols at a Nassau County range under local law. In fact, I've been told, it would be legal for me to shoot an air pistol at a Nassau county range, (once again abiding by the county gun laws) despite the fact that Air Pistols are illegal for possession by a NYC resident.

If you really read the NYC Pistol Permit laws carefully, you are likely to find that they contradict themself.
I frequently take my gun out to a pistol range in Pa to compare it to the guns that they have to "rent" to decide what my next gun will be. I'm not sure what the official "laws" are on that.
 
Reading this thread just makes me mad....

NYC/NYS, but NYC more so is so restrictive of our 2nd amendment rights.

The rules seem to be made by people who probably just want to give us law abiding citizens a hard time. I cannot wait to leave NYS/NYC for good.

But on the other hand if I do get into a LEO position, I believe I will be able to CCW anywhere in the country legally.... based on a law president bush signed a few years back...
 
NYC

"on the other hand if I do get into a LEO position"
The irony there is that, if you end up on the NYPD, you'll be bound to enforce those laws which make you mad.
Pete
 
Yes, I agree that is the law and that you are permitted to have a handgun anywhere in the US, but that does not mean that the idiot brigade at JFK knows the law and will not arrest you and take their sweet time figuring things out.

This is not just a "theory" or an unsubstantiated "suspicion" of mine...this was told to me, directly over the phone, by SWAT Officer Sully; owner of the highly respected Defensive Edge (aka makers of The Grail Rifle that Rich Lucibella did the article on several months ago). His men were being hassled by morons at JFK who were gonna arrest them for not having NYC handgun permits!

Ok lets get this Str8, because I know this to be completely untrue. You must not be talking about NYPD ESU or another NYS Police Officer agency Swat team because the Police agency that regulates JFK is the port authority police dept. (PAPD) and they have NY/NJ police powers and they all know that (lets forget about the entire US) all NYS police Ofiicers can CCW anywhere in the state. So what govenment police agency does the swat team you are refering to work for? Again a NYC/NYS PO cannot be arrested for CCW their dept issued service firearms or their dept approved off-duty firearms. And any on-duty officer that tried to arrest a sworn police officer from NYS(on or off duty) for legally CCW, that officer would not be an officer for long. And no desk sergeant would approve said arrest. So you must be refering to a civilian security force or out of town PO needing a NYC pistol permit.
 
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Ok lets get this Str8, because I know this to be completely untrue. You must not be talking about NYPD ESU or another NYS Police Officer agency Swat team because the Police agency that regulates JFK is the port authority police dept. (PAPD) and they have NY/NJ police powers and they all know that (lets forget about the entire US) all NYS police Ofiicers can CCW anywhere in the state. So what govenment police agency does the swat team you are refering to work for? Again a NYC/NYS PO cannot be arrested for CCW their dept issued service firearms or their dept approved off-duty firearms. And any on-duty officer that tried to arrest a sworn police officer from NYS(on or off duty) for legally CCW, that officer would not be an officer for long. And no desk sergeant would approve said arrest. So you must be refering to a civilian security force or out of town PO needing a NYC pistol permit.
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Let me clarify: The SWAT officers returning from training and travelling thru JFK were not NY officers; they are definitely from out of state (I think MO), and the offending morons were NY Port Authority.

BUT, the point is still the same: The idiot NY Port Authority cops at JFK tried to arrest SWAT officers who are legally allowed to travel aywhere in the country with their firearms, and in this case theyweren't even ccw; they had them in locked cases for transport in the check in luggage area.

If you still don't or just simply can't believe me then feel free to call the man himself, Sully, at Defensive Edge, and I'm sure he will be happy to recount the story to you himself...
 
No I am not applying for the NYPD......I dont see myself applying for a position with them ..

I am applying for a LEO position in TX and am going there this weekend for the entrance exams etc..... wish me luck....
 
You can not legally.The handbook that is given to a permit holder at time of issuance explains everything in detail. (the handbook does not vary based on type of license. It is an all inclusive booklet) Nassau and Suffolk are part of NYS which honors the permit. (And that came from nassau, suffolk, and nys troopers) As long as you are abiding by NYC rules which are more restrictive then you will be ok. (keeping the handgun in a locked container in not easily accessible by anyone and the ammunition separate) NYPD's website explains in detail the different types of licenses that are available.

It's not impossible to get a premises license in NYC (keeping the gun only in your home and going to the range) It is just expensive and a tedious process. The license division has actually sped up the process quite nicely and everyone there for some reason is much nicer.http://www.thefiringline.com/forums/images/smilies/eek.gif

It is what it is. It's not going to change anytime soon.
 
Ok Scrap5000


Now I believe that statement because NYC/NYS is behind the times on the federal law HR-218 LEOSA that allows Police and Peace officers to CCW a handgun in any US state. Out of state officers are just civilians in host state and they must follow state CCW laws when visiting. Now if they were SWAt and they were in possession of assult weapons or machine guns they can be arrested because in NYC both are prohibited by anyone. Now if they were invited by the NYPD for some competition or seminar or training session then they would have an approved letter from NYPD Commissioner. But if they were just landing in JKF and traveling uninterupted to LI or upstate NY assult weapons in a locked contatiner would be ok. But alot of rookie and veteren officers in NY do not know about these LEO exemption laws because they are so used to everything gun wise being illegal in NYC
 
NYSJAILER2008, it was for handguns, and they were actually in locked cases, ready for check in transport. In their minds, no one could travel in nyc with a a handgun unless they had a NYC handgun permit & for those specific guns (serial numbered), including locked in a case.

They were wrong when it comes to police officers, but are "right" when it comes to civilians...they are not allowed to fly out of NYC with a handgun without a nyc permit, even if locked in a case. Which makes NO sense whatsoever...how are people supposed to travel then with it??
 
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