nyc permit holder

It depends on what kind or NYC pistol permit you have. If its premise/target(home or business) then no, You can only shoot in a NYC approved gun range witin the boundaries of the city. But if you have a carry (unrestircted or business) you can carry anywhere in NYS
 
and what country might this be in, surely it can not be in the USA where the Right to Keep and Bear Arms shall not be restricted.


Sorry folks, But its time to flush everything south of I 84 in NYS into the sea,
 
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I have to disagree with the earlier post that said no. I have a NYC permit and regularly had it checked and shot at ranges in Suffolk Co. Never had a problem.
In addition, I have shot many matches at the Peconic Club's facility in Suffolk Co. along with a number of men who I know were NYC residents.
It is true, however, that pistol permits from other parts of the state are not valid in NYC.

Pete
 
Technically, the NYC residence permit is valid for shooting your own pistol only in NYC. However, that is SOLEY an administrative restriction, as is carrying it on your person. I.E. you cannot be arrested for carrying a loaded pistol anywhere in NYS where it is legal to carry (excluding courthouses, etc), including concealed, that is on your residence nyc permit. BUT, if caught then you will in all likelyhood be brought in & have a very, very long & unpleasant talk & then your nyc permit will almost undoubtedly be permanently revoked.

God Bless AmeriKa!! :mad:
 
Well, we sure won't let them shoot anywhere in S.C.

don't know where that county is exactly but what would a 'city' permit have to do with a county anyway?
 
NYC

Scrap: I'm not disagreeing with you at all but I'd appreciate some clarification.
"I.E. you cannot be arrested for carrying a loaded pistol anywhere in NYS where it is legal to carry (excluding courthouses, etc), including concealed, that is on your residence nyc permit. BUT, if caught then you will in all likelyhood be brought in & have......"

It's the "if caught" part. If caught where and by whom? I ask because I used to shoot regularly at the old Huntington range in Suffolk Co. The R.O.s there were uniformed and serious. My NYC permit was checked every time I showed up - for years - there was never an issue.
I have always understood, perhaps in error, that NYC's administrative laws carried little or no weight in the rest of the state. Given the confusion that frequently accompanies NYC firearms rules, I am always looking for clarification.
Pete
 
I would also appreciate some clarification on this topic. I am about to get my nyc permit and would like to shoot with relatives on long island if possible but do not want to do anything that could jeopardize my permit. It was after all incredibly time consuming to obtain. I would assume that if I was 'caught' breaking a rule (not a law), I can still loose my permit AND my gun for good... I don’t want that to happen at any cost. Thanks.
 
I beleive that you can have a NYC permit and shoot in Suffolk County.

I have a Suffolk County handgun permit (target and hunting). I use my handgun upstate to target shoot and hunt (Note - Transported in a locked case).

You can not hunt with a handgun is Suffolk. Why else would they issue for hunting. You have to use it elsewhere.
 
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Beware of bad info

LISTEN AND LISTEN GOOD

I am LEO in NYS. I was born and raised in NYC and know dozens of civilians with NYC pistol permit. They have different catorgories of permits: 1. premisis/target 2. securtiy gurad/armored carguard 3. business carry(must own business and transport money or jewels) 4. unrestricted(full carry)if you possess a full carry then you can go anywhere and CCW in NYS

If you have a premises/target pistol permit DO NOT carry it concealed anywhere in NYC/NYS. It is only for the address listed on the permit and you are allowed by the NYPD to carry it locked in trunk to an approved range in NYC. Some ranges outside of the city(LI,westchester) have a deal with NYPD to be apporved shooting ranges for PREM/TRAG PP holders, but you have to get the list. If you are caught CCW on a restricted pistol permit no you will not be arrested but you will have you permit revoked permanately and for those that dont know it costs around $500 and 1 year of waiting along with a full investigation to only recieve the basic permit. Other juristrictions may not care or look the other way (maybe) if caught CCW or useing non apporved range outside of NYC. But why would any LUCKY person to recieve a NYC pistol permit take that chance???????????????:confused: Why are you asking forum users about important laws pertating to handgun licensing. If you dont believe me call NYPD @ 1police plaza. that is what the phone number they gave you when you obtained the license is for.
 
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Hi guys,

Sorry to respond so late to this.

Pretty much +1 to everything that NYSJAILER2008 said, except I did not know about the approved ranges outside of NYC.

Any NYC handgun license that you are issued other than full carry has administrative restrictions on it. That means that the NYC P.D. places arbitrary rules that restrict what you can & cannot do with your permit such as carrying concealed anywhere or to a range outside of NYC, but there are no criminal charges that can be filed against you for breaking those two adminstrative rules. They can only revoke your license (which is horrible, tho!).

For further clarification: Once you receive a handgun permit, the state has no restrictions on the books about carrying and shooting anywhere outside of NYC; that destinction is simply not made according to NYS law. Under NY State law, a handgun permit is a handgun permit is a handgun permit.

So you are therefore technically licensed to carry concealed & shoot at a range outside of NYC according to the NYS Law and also to shoot anywhere that it's legal to shoot in NYS outside of NYC.

And since it's a NYC permit, you are also therefore technically licensed to also carry concealed IN NYC & shoot at a range IN NYC.

You therefore cannot be arrested nor criminally charged for doing so.

BUT, and this is a HUGE BUT: Because of the NYC P.D. adminstrative rules which forbid you to carry concealed anywhere, and which forbid you to shoot outside of NYC, then you can have adminstrative problems with the NYC P.D. if someone calls you out on it or if you have an "incident".

What that means is that they can only, AT WORST, revoke your license forever, which is still pretty damn horrible, as stated.

Lots of officers in & out of nyc and lots of places in and outside of NYC do not know the rules, or just don't care, etc.

But if you get caught by someone who DOES know the rules & cares, or if you get into a shootout or have a negligent discharge, etc, then kiss your license goodbye forever.

There IS a hunting amendment you can add to your NYC license, tho, which just takes a simple phone call to get, that allows you to hunt outside of NYC with your handgun. Not sure if it allows concealed or not; it just states "on his person."

VERY IMPORTANT SIDE NOTE: No permits OTHER THAN NYC ONES are valid inside of NYC. I.E. if you are issued a permit from any place other than NYC then you WILL be arrested for having a handgun in NYC, even if it is just at the airport! And even if you are a police officer! Sully from Defensive Edge told me a crazy story about his fellow Swat officers almost being arrested at JFK when flying back from a training course!!
 
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Thanks, that helps a bit.
The original post was "Can a NYC permit holder legally shoot in Nassau/Suffolk County?"
Concealed carry was not an issue. The responses seem to indicate that, as far as NYC is concerned, it is not permissible to shoot at a range out of the city unless it is an approved range. As far as the rest of the state is concerned, however, the NYC permit is valid. As was stated "Under NY State law, a handgun permit is a handgun permit is a handgun permit." At least, that has been my experience.
IMHO, mentioning the concealed carry business confuses the original question.
Pete
 
Alright so if I don’t want to take any chances… no shooting on long island with my NYC premises/range permit. Can I get a long island permit for range shooting if I reside in Brooklyn and already have a NYC premises permit?
Thanks.
 
Wow, I've learned alot reading this thread...I knew it was bad but didn't realize it was that bad. I'm glad I live in the USA and don't have to worry about having to get permits (which prolly cost an arm/a leg and take forever for the paperwork to go through) just to go to the range. I bet the criminals don't worry about the permits.
 
Well I say +1 for everything I stated ...LOL. But seriously It is real simple with NYC pistol permits(premisis/target) they cannot be CCW and cannot be moved from location listed on permit and cannot be taken outside of NYC for no reason(range,travel,sale). NYC is the most gun restrictive city in the country and as long as you remember that you will never get jammed up. The answer to the question is if you want a LI permit move to LI. LI does not issue non-resident pistol permits becasue LI is still NYS so if you live in NYC then you reside in NYS also and you cannot possess permits from mutiple counties. Now you can take your chances and take your firearm any range you choose but you run the risk of being jammed up and losing you permit forever and trust me if you lose a permit in NYC you can forget getting one in any other state that does background checks for permits.:eek: (AND TO THE POSTER THAT STATED AS A NYS/NYC POLICE OFFICER YOU CAN BE ARRESTED FOR HAVING A HANDGUN AT AN AIRPORT(WE CANNOT FLY ARMED), YOU ARE SADLY MISTAKEN. NYS/NYC LEO CAN CCW ANYWHERE IN NYS/NYC. SWORN NYS/NYC POLICE and/or SWORN NYS/NYC ARMED PEACE OFFICERS ARE NOT ISSUED PISTOL PERMIT THEY CAN (PURCHASE,CARRY,OWN,DISPOSE) A FIREARM BY VIRTUE OF THEIR PO STATUS BY LAW(NYSCPL)(NYS PENAL) ALL WE NEED IS OUR BADGE AND ID.
 
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Ah not so, if you lost your permit in NY and moved to Minnesota, you would have to have been charged with a felony or a domestic dispute to be blocked from getting your permit.

Simply loosing your permit would not ban you. Several people in minnesota before there was a new shall issue system simply carried anyway, as the first offense was a misdemeanor, and often it was waived or expunged if you went a year without a similar charge. Many of those people who are now eligible to get a permit have gotten them.
 
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Wow.

Scrap and Jailer: I was skeptical. I was wrong. Checked just now at the NYPD website in FAQs:
"Can I go target shooting outside NYC?

A NYC carry business license is valid throughout NYS. Premise residence and premise business licenses are only valid in NYC except as indicated in the next section."

The "next section" references hunting with a handgun in NYS and is as was noted in an earlier post.
Pete
 
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