NY, NY - it's all about carrying knives

I cant believe I read the whole thing !

anyway, yeah, NYC is not SAFE. it may be statistically safer than this or that, but fact remains criminals are crawling all over this city, nothing you can do about it you know... too many people.

I find that the low life scum of NYC goes as far as the subway and busses takes them. rarely do I see these scums in neigborhoods where it is accessablie by car only,

I wish all these scums would just float off into space, I am tired of having to deal with this stuff...

Just before, I got approached by a FRIENDLY panhandler.. the kind that strikes up banter and then asks for a "favor".. yeah, gave him a buck so he'd leave... next time no more money for them.
 
Time to move. I grew up in NYC. I recently returned for business. My old neighbor has gone quite down hill. Just wandering around Manhattan using common sense was just fine.

I wonder, do you have firearms in NYC - Shootemdown, or is it just rhetoric?

If one felt so strongly, unless there are compelling family reasons or business reasons, I would move to a gun friendly area.
 
If you are the victim of a crime. your perception is drastically altered, and no matter the statistics, you are always seeing things one way.

NYC unsafe? Dude, i worked there from 73-93. It was a horror in the mid 70's, and with the explosion of drugs in the early 80's, it got really bad.

Now- you can take your family down Times Square with dollar bills hanging out of their pockets and probably do OK.
In 83 you couldn't walk down the duece without grabbing a few robbers, guns, assaults whatever.

It is real easy to hate NYC, especially from people who have never been there.:rolleyes:
 
muggers deserve what they goetz

Born and raised in NY. was travelling the subways to work between 1975 and 85.
"deserve what they Goetz" was on t-shirts, bumper stickers etc for a year after the shooting. If it were up to the majority of folks in NYC, Bernie would have never served a day!
It was after the shooting thet many New Yorkers realized that screwdrivers were being used as lethal weapons!
I traveled alot of less than desirable subway stops, sometimes with the nights receipts, heading to a bank deposit box.
theres alot to be said for walking tall and acting comfortable in your surroundings. I was usually the minority travelling the subways after midnight.and ive never weighed more than 170, no real marial arts, but i only had a problem once. It wasnt a true threat , just two guys with too much hooch getting "playful".
I was more worried one of them would fall on me....
anyway, Ive been out of NY since 1991 but i visit family once a year.
We pack nieces and nephews onto the Long Island railroad and head into NYC and go to places that used to make me nervous. Havent had a serious problem yet. Now, i dont take the family into known "war zones" (yeah, theres still a few), but we mostly go anywhere we want, for the most part.
NY will always get a bad rap, especially on forums where we pride ouselves on the right to carry. And from folks who have never lived there or visited regularly.
Most of the preconcieved notions are second hand. I havent seen any posts from someone who actually was mugged, beaten etc in NY.
Bottom line is, bad guys go after the weak, or those they percieve to be weak. This is true everywhere. there's still parts of wichita, kansas that i'm "uncomfortable" in and ive lived in Kansas for 10 years! (my permit is no good in wichita, can only carry a knife).
Sorry for rambling, but this thread brought back alot of memories.
There was a time that NYC was more known because of Bernie Goetz and Son of sam than for anything else. If you werent there at the time, you cant possibly understand it.
JMHO
tom
 
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