NY Man arrested for playing airsoft with his kids !

Sensible discretion on the part of the officers might have been nice. However, freaked out Mom might have complained to the bosses if the officers just yelled at the guy.

I really can't see the need for the expense of a trial, etc. for this guy.
 
I agree, and I'd be very surprised if there is one.

We also don't know why resisting arrest was one of the charges, but if the guy was an uncooperative jerk from the moment police arrived at his door, that may have contributed to his being arrested.
 
Yep, some people never learn that they should cooperate with the law and then complain, appeal, etc. Ranting at the scene does you little good.
 
No doubt this guy has zero common sense. He is likely to loose everything he owns trying to defend his actions in court. Not to mention the burden on the taxpayer to prosecute him. Some type of a misconduct ticket and a stern warning should have been suffice.
 
Brian Pfleuger said:
New York City

Which, geographically, is 0.17% of New York State. The vast majority of the rest of that 99.83% of the state is as or more gun friendly as anywhere else in America.

Come on, now, Brian. You know as well as the rest of us, that the rest of the state is still quite restrictive. And, it isn't the geographical proportions that matter, it's the population. New York City, alone (not including the metro area), accounts for 43% of the state's population. When you add in the metro area, it just gets worse from there.

I know you have been forced to live with those restrictions for a long time, and have become accustomed to the atmosphere, but it isn't gun-friendly by any means.

I lived in two of what many people considered to be some of the best counties in the state, for gun rights. Yet, I could not legally possess handgun ammunition of any kind, because I didn't have a pistol permit. ...which, of course, meant I couldn't possess a handgun, either. I could not possess more than 1 lb of smokeless powder, because the local governments (all the way down to township level) considered it to be "hazardous to the community". I could not possess more than 100 primers, because they were a "dangerous explosive material".

And, the local reloading suppliers were so afraid of making a mistake that would land them on the wrong side of the NY State goonsquad, that almost all of them refused to sell components of any kind to anyone with a non-resident ID.

When I lived just outside Rochester, a deaf child there was shot for "brandishing" a handgun in his front yard. ...except it was a cordless phone. :rolleyes:


Yet...
Two weeks ago, I stopped at a gas station, while driving between Pocatello, Idaho, and Salt Lake City, Utah, to execute a trade involving firearms, reloading tools, components, and cash. We literally handed off the goods while pumping gas at the pumps of a very busy filling station / truck stop at the crossroads of two major highways, and no one even gave us a dirty look. A few people actually seemed to be admiring the uncased blued steel. It sounds ridiculous to people in restrictive states, but the transaction was perfectly legal under state and federal law.

All the while, both of us had legally concealed handguns, with no license requirement. Heading the other direction, when I cross the border into Idaho (slightly more restrictive than Utah), all I have to do to remain legal is put the handgun in plain sight or unload it (it can't be loaded and concealed in a vehicle, without a permit).



I know it hurts to admit that you live in a state that is very restrictive and oppressive, and that I live in the middle of some of the least-restrictive states; but that doesn't change how ridiculous NY is, when it comes to guns, gun ownership, and the majority opinion. NY sucks.
 
FrankenMauser said:
I know you have been forced to live with those restrictions for a long time, and have become accustomed to the atmosphere, but it isn't gun-friendly by any means.

I'm not talking about the laws. I'm talking about the people, but the laws (until the SAFE Act, which will NOT stand) aren't as bad as the legends, either.

Most folks in upstate NY are just like most folks in Idaho or Utah. No one is going to freak out over seeing a gun. It is perfectly legal and quite common to buy/sell/trade long guns in public, no background checks required. Public and private gun ranges are common. Hearing gunshots in the distance is a daily occurrence. No one is bothered.

We don't have any restrictions on powder or primers.

We don't have to hide the fact that we own guns from our neighbors or talk about it in hushed tones.

Some of our laws are stupid, but most folks in upstate are no different than the folks in rural parts of other states.
 
“I don’t tend to take things lying down, so I went past the parents, and so I walked straight over and I confronted him,” said Leni Calas. “I mean, he’s brandishing a firearm and I don’t care if that firearm is plastic. That’s unacceptable

This is, to me, the most incredible part. She was morally outraged, because the guy playing with the toy gun scared her....so she confronted him.

I suppose its a good thing for all of us that it was just a toy gun, as a real gun in the hands of a bad guy might have shot her, and again, the gun would get ALL the blame.

idiot


As to the poor schmuck getting charged with all that, yeah, that's NYC SOP. Citizens complained. Guy gets arrested, and charged with everything that they can think of. OK, airsoft, pellet, and toyguns are regulated in NYC. If he didn't follow NYC law about registration and ownership, then he is guilty of that. Doesn't matter how foolish we think the law is, it is what it is, until/unless it gets changed. That part, I think will be open and shut.

Reckless endangerment, endangering the welfare of a minor, and even the resisting arrest are open to dispute, in court, dependant on the specifics of his actions. Without the details not included in sound byte reporting, I make no judgement about the validity of the charges. Maybe the guy didn't really DO anything and people vastly over reacted. Maybe he was an idiot, and did things that put "reasonable" people in fear for their lives...I just don't know...

Although, I feel that if they were in fear for their lives, walking straight over and confronting him isn't a good rational choice....
 
Sort of makes me wistful for the days of my youth, with double holsters and fairly realistic SAA cap guns in each, loaded with a roll of caps apiece - equivalent to about 40 round magazines. And then the BB guns came, and no bird was safe. No lizard either (SoCal). Oh yeah - the wrist-rocket slingshots! those were a hoot. And the day i figured out how to blast a whole roll of caps at once on the curb with my dad's framing hammer...

Jeeze, just come and arrest me.
 
This is, to me, the most incredible part. She was morally outraged, because the guy playing with the toy gun scared her....so she confronted him.
Evil knows no bounds when the concept of "our brother's keeper" has become a moral imperative.

Altruism sounds good, but taken to its logical extent, it is the social, nameless monster we fear at night in society.
 
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