NRA Wins Restraining Order Against Confiscations

Defendants C. Ray Nagin, Mayor of the City of New Orleans, and P. Edwin Compass, III, Superintendent of the Department of Police for the City of New Orleans, specifically deny each and every allegation in the Complaint for Declaratory Judgment and Injunctive Relief and specifically reserving all rights herein and waiving none, assert the following:

1. C. Ray Nagin has not issued, nor has he any intention of issuing, any order, declaration, promulgation, and/or directive pursuant to the authority granted unto him by LSA-R.S. 29:721, et seq., ordering the seizure of any lawfully-possessed firearm from law abiding citizens...
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Well DUH! OF COURSE he didn't issue the order "pursuant to the authority granted unto him by LSA-R.S. 29:721 et seq."

The whole freaking point is that he issued confiscation orders WITHOUT having such "authority"!!!!!!!!

He is guilty of usurpation and malfeasance, as far as I am concerned. We may not have "proof" of what he did, yet, but I'm prepared to give a lot of credibility to the reports that have come in so far...

-blackmind
 
IIRC, it was only Compass that was quoted in the videos. I haven't seen them all, so I could be wrong.

If this is indeed the case, then only if Compass implicates Nagin, will Nagin be held to strict culpability. It may be that Nagin can be held as negligent, if it can be proven that he knew about the order and did nothing to prevent its execution. The same would possibly hold to Blanco.
 
Of particular note to me there is the fact that Nagin and Compass were repped by the same attorney in a case where even a casual glance tells you they may be at legal odds with each other.
Rich
 
Guys, in that excerpt from the defendants' responses to the accusations contained in the restraining order, note that it says they didn't issue confiscation orders "pursuant to the authority granted unto him by LSA-R.S. 29:721"

We already KNEW that they didn't do it under OFFICIAL AUTHORITY! The issue now is finding that they DID DO IT. Obviously, since the charter of their authority does not grant them the power to do so, IF they did it, it was "not pursuant to the authority granted" to them.


Their little defense there contains just enough doubletalk to sound like they're claiming they DIDN'T DO IT, but all it really amounts to is an admission that they didn't do it under their proper authority.


-blackmind
 
Rich said:
Of particular note to me there is the fact that Nagin and Compass were repped by the same attorney in a case where even a casual glance tells you they may be at legal odds with each other.
Rich
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Yeah, well, their defense is probably being bankrolled by Sarah Brady and HCI.


-blackmind







...Yeah, I still call those bastards "HCI". :mad:
 
The Louisiana statutes grant unconstitutional authority to "regulate the possession" of firearms during a declared emergency. Article 11 of the Louisiana Constitution renders that null and void. Its language is clear and unambiguous.
 
mvpel-
And **that** is the prize the NRA needs to remain focused on as they move from State to State against such laws. Nagin and Compass have been carefully briefed; they've removed the Statute from the fray of any potential Court Ruling in the confiscations.

I suspect the NRA knew that would happen and I trust they have a way of using those confiscations to open the Pandora's Box of such Statute(s) regardless.
Rich
 
Nobody actually wants the cops going to prison.
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Why not? They have violated very important laws - the Bill of Rights, for one. That's the most important law of the land in America. They stole people's private property.

If a private individual steals someone's gun, he goes to prison. Why shouldn't those people go to prison?
 
I think prison is too harsh for their part of the action. I think the threat of it might get them to truthfully testify. If not, then off they go in my mind.

Would I fine them? Yes. Certainly a letter in their file to make sure they get to be meter maids until they retire. But I just think prison is not the point when they got their orders from up the chain.

Now if they decided on their own to follow some illegal felony action. Grab the soap boys, the prison showers are calling.
 
Nobody actually wants the cops going to prison.
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I do. In the case of the elderly lady, criminal trespass, she was assaulted, her property stolen, forcibly removed from her home (kidnapped). If I did that, me being a citizen (non LEO), I would be in jail, and later in front of a judge explaining my actions. These LEO's need the same treatment.
 
Ok, call me a softy. Or go to the thread on carrying a gun to the shower with you and see where people think I'm nearly a cop killer. :)

Jim
 
I cannot help but feel sweet satisfaction, but something is lacking.

This whole saga needs media attention. More importantly, people holed up down there need to know they no longer have to be suspicious of approaching law enforcement. Until an official renouncement of this is made, rumours are still rampant. I'm making that judgement just from the barbershop and gun counter scuttlebutt in North Louisiana. I can only imagine what the paranoia must be like among the hold outs in New Orleans. For everyone's safety, this order or whatever they want to call it needs to be publicly renounced.
 
Antipitas, TY, I though so as well. Good stuff. I am sure the people who supported the actions in NO will not like this.
 
To the trenches, young Balrog.
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I am already in the trenches - perhaps not actively protesting and 'doing things', but volunteering, writing, translating, donating for pro-freedom groups both where I live and elsewhere. Not perhaps manning the guns myself, but certainly handing over the ammo.

It takes people like Wayne Lapierre to maintain the status-quo.

People like Neil Smith, Neal Knox, Angel Shamaya, Marc Emery, Peter McWilliams, Ron Paul change the status quo.

No, I don't have the dedication to be like one of those people. But at least I acknowledge and thank them for being there - on the very tip of liberty's spear.
 
Gee Id call Halbrooks memo an attempt to change the staus quo...... :D

Ive been in this debate before, suffice it to say the mature, responsible, reasoned arguments win while the frothing at the mouth radicals get tossed aside.

WildtherestherightwayandthewrongwayAlaska
 
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