Now I did it..........

Noban

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My 11-year old daughter lives with her mother for the school year in Arizona, spends the summers with me. While here, she gets my opinions on the constitution and particularly on firearms rights. Well, the ex called me last night to ask that I "tone down" my political rhetoric around out daughter. She received a call from the teacher. Seems her history class received an unbridled opinion from my daughter yesterday about how "Clinton is disarming only innocent people and if anyone in this room is ever raped because she can't defend herself, it's Clinton's fault." She also stated that gun control advocates are "paranoid socialists." That's my kid :)
 
I wouldn't change a thing ;)

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So whats the problem? :D

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Call that teacher yourself. Tell him/her that it's a free country, you have a right to your opinions and a right to educate your own child as you see fit.
 
Dont see the problem. Why did the teacher call to begin with? Seems to me your daughter expressed her personal opinion on a topic being discussed in class. I guess that liberal dumba$$ teacher should refrain from asking questions that she does not want answered. I guess the First A. only applies to people who want to repeat the party line now days.
 
I agree. Call the teacher and ask her how she plans to defend herself when she's home alone and the rapist cuts the phone line prior to entering? Then tell her that if law-abidding citizens had free'er access to firearms, she could sleep soundly & safely at night.
 
Second that!

Kids who speak up for themselves might grow up to be adults who speak up for themselves - dangerous indeed! :)

I have a sister who's the same age. She's a bit outspoken herself. I Love It. Mom says if I keep encouraging her, then I have to go to the next meeting with the principal. Can't wait!

besides, her school is about a mile from my favorite shooting range ;)
 
Now that's good stuff!! :D I can't wait for some moron to call me from my kid's school complaining that my kid expressed an opinion. Especially one that is Constitutionally sound. My kid is only 2 though, so I have plenty of time to take those anger management courses for such an event.

Good job though and tell her she just made a bunch of TFLers real happy. We'll back her up if she needs it too, but it sounds like she has it all under control. ;)
 
It was probably the "socialist" label that raised the teachers ire. Being a history teacher we can presume that the teacher is aware of the definintion of the label. It probably hit too close to home for the teachers delicate sensibilities. With any luck the teacher will reevaluate her own political views and subsequent teaching practices.
Bear in mind though that the teacher has the responsiblity to all of the parents of the students in her class. Even though everything your daughter said is painfully true imagine the reaction of the "died in the wool" demo parents of the other kids when this is repeated at home. Not a critisism. In fact it sounds as though your daughter could teach the class quite capably herself. Your pride is well placed.
I'll be anxious to hear from the teachers on the board.

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Good for you Noban!

Now, expect more trouble form the school on this one. You may want to at least talk to alawyer in preparation. Damn, defending freedom is hard work.

CMOS

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I'd say she needs to run for class president !!!! Good work. Now I know why the wife is now your EX !!! :D

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Noban, if you do get a chance to communicate with the teacher, and you don't mind REALLY being the bad guy, tell her you got some advice from a middle-school teacher you know in Illinois:

It is NOT your job to tell your daughter that her opinions on these issues have to be "toned down" for the classroom. The teacher has every right to ask that your daughter stay on topic, but it's HER job to ask it.
Moreover, if she brings up the topic of gun control, she has NO excuse for singling out any student to deride his/her opinion. If she doesn't squash the kids who pipe up FOR gun control, in other words, you have cause for a serious complaint here.

It's disgusting that she would feel the need to call home and ask your ex-wife to alter her views (and yours) so that your child wouldn't learn them! It doesn't matter what she thought of those views.


A few days ago, a child used the "n-word" in my class. I informed him that he was free to say whatever his parents would allow him to get away with at home, but that I wouldn't accept that speech here. That was the end of it. If he does it again and I have to call his parents about it, it'll only be to make them aware of the situation--and if they inform me that they think that's fine and dandy for him to say, that's their business. I only have the right to ask him to refrain from certain speech in the classroom, and even then there must be an overriding reason for it to be considered ethical. Avoiding any stamp of legitimacy on racial insults is such a reason; political disagreements are not.
 
Thanks for all the responses. I'll pass the sentiment along to my daughter and continue to encourage her to think for herself, even if she eventually disagrees with me.

Noban
 
Noban, we've gotta get our daughters together for some shootin'.

Maybe you should contact the teacher directly (with a carbon copy to the principal or the superintendent of schools) and let her know you're not sure you heard the story correctly from your ex and would she please explain in writing exactly how she would like you to stifle ("tone down") your daughter's political speech and why.

Hang in there, bro. You know where to find me.

Ledbetter
 
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<BLOCKQUOTE><font size="1" face="Verdana, Arial">quote:</font><HR>Originally posted by Noban:
Seems her history class received an unbridled opinion from my daughter yesterday about how "Clinton is disarming only innocent people and if anyone in this room is ever raped because she can't defend herself, it's Clinton's fault." She also stated that gun control advocates are "paranoid socialists." That's my kid :) [/quote]

I'm proud of your child...
But I am curious, what caused her to speak out on the subject? Did the teacher initiate it? Another student?

Just curious...
 
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