not a clean kill

ditto on the responses

but on a slight tangent, these Bison "hunts" are nothing but "shoots". Maybe something has been lost in these types of "hunting" scenarios. There are no wild herds of buffalo on these ranches and the only wild herd left is more or less domestic as it pertains to fear of humans. It's like going out to the family ranch and "hunting" a nice beef cow. That said, if someone wants to spend their money that way, I am all for personal choices..
 
once more it goes to show that there is a huge difference between a shooter and a hunter. but don't leave it there, report the coward!!!
 
i did think about sending the ranch a link to this, but i asked his side of the story and he tells me the animal was shot in the spine and was numb, looked like it was shot in the hips to me. either way i dont think they agree with my side of the story. which is why i posted it in the first place. i dont know how he could have possibly known what that animal was feeling. unless maybe he takes one in the spine for himself and fills us all in on whats goin on in the pain department. im still debating on releasing the name of the outfitters, i know you folks all have different opinions on that subject, i would like to know what you guys think. i dont need anyone calling or harassing on my behalf. what do you guys think? and yes i wanted to punch both the guide and the hunter.
 
I agree with you on this
i dont know how he could have possibly known what that animal was feeling. unless maybe he takes one in the spine for himself and fills us all in on whats goin on in the pain department.
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I would send him a link to this forum and put the name up so no one else supports their "operation". I wont call and raise a stink, but they wont ever get my money.:mad:
 
Sure, the two-sides thing can commonly be a problem. The fact remains that if an animal is wounded, it should then be finished off ASAP. That doesn't mean one should approach on a dead run, but certainly it's unethical to just stand around and wonder if the animal will maybe die soon.
 
You did the correct thing. People make bad shots but waiting and watching that for that long is plain out inhuman. You should have taken the back of your hand a b_ _ _ _ slaped him silly. Not really bad news when guns are involved just makes my blood boil to be so cruel. So dont second guess what you done, you done the correct thing.
 
I'm the second hunter in the cabin. When saguaro brought the situation to my attention I couldn't believe what I saw. My grandfather started teaching me to hunt almost 60 years ago as a young child. First rule of hunting is a good clean kill, or follow up shot. I do not hunt for trophies, and never have. I knew that the animal was spinal shot. I've seen a few. The time was more like twenty minutes, I haven't run a sub 5 minute half mile in a long time. The shooter is to blame for not finishing of his game. The guide has the ultimate blame though. He wanted complete control during the hunt. For some reason he was in a hurry the whole time we were there. He was in such a hurry to follow the herd that he left a CRIPPLED animal on the field. In the film we got of the hunt he took off with two other hunters chasing the herd. Neither of the two hunters with him had a weapon. I'm not going to relate to what happened next.

This is the second hunt I've been on at this ranch. The last hunt in 2006 was awesome. It took me most of the day to get in on a good animal, and three lung shots with a 44 mag at 30 yds or less, and I had the guide cap my animal with a head shot. I did not enjoy this trip. It wasn't a hunt, it was hurry, hurry, hurry, and lets chase them with the truck.

An off hand shot at 150 yds on a moving target, I wouldn't take that shot, and it was my rifle. I've taken time to read your comments. I'm a little hard core, ie drill sgt in FULL METAL JACKET, so I really needed to calm down. I can't tell you how irate I was. I will notify the owner/rancher of my feelings and the messages in this forum.

I'm new to the firing line, I'll be back
 
Do you think the guide encouraged the fellow to take a shot at the moving animal because he was in a hurry?
 
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Yes, welcome infntry!
I refrained from posting (is that even possible) on this until now... but for good reason...

...Everything I say on the www. is public info! Now I have finally toned down my thoughts:o I will say that I would have told the shooter, in no polite manner, to finish it off or I would have. AS FAST AS POSSIBLE, I would have put the animal down and if anyone around had a problem with that, I would deal with it however they wish.:mad:
Brent
 
Ending the animal's suffering:

I am a long time hunter and feel without question that you did exactly the right thing by dispatching this animal who was in pain. We have the responsibility to make a clean kill and nothing else. I would have asked this scum bag if he would like to be dragging himself around after someone made a bad shot on him? :mad:
 
2damnold4this yes.... that is exactly what he did. ive acually got video of the shot and about 8-10 seconds following the shot. and you can tell the guide is more interested in following the heard than the crippled animal
 
you can tell the guide is more interested in following the heard than the crippled animal
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Some Guide! Sounds like HE needs a good lesson in ETHICS, himself. These kind of things never cease to "amaze" me...
 
You absolutely did the right thing. That guide needs to be hunting a job, not game animals. And whatever venue is responsible for hosting this sorry excuse for a guide needs to be ashamed of itself. I hope you do send them the link to this thread.

lpl
 
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