tahunua001
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as much as I dislike posting in zombie threads.
the resurrection artist needs to understand that there is a huge difference in the velocity of a standard length 308 or 30-06 and a 308 coming from a 16 inch barrel, especially if the powder is of a slower burn rate. I am not a fan of remington. I have had such terrible results with their hunting ammo I have completely sworn off them for that application. what I'm thinking is the case, here, is that the corelokts are behaving like varmint loads, instantly expanding and fragmenting and not holding enough weight to get proper penetration. one poster in this thread said something along the lines of "more than enough for tiny TX deer". well that right there should be an indicator that something is wrong if relatively close range shots on small deer still can't muster the oomph for a pass through wound.
the problem is likely a mixture of poor bullet construction and the short barrel hampering velocity. if I were going to handload for it, and I love to work up new loads. I would likely load up a strong load using a total copper bullet like a nosler Etip or barnes TTSX, upping the weight is not really necessary for "tiny tx whitetails". in order to negate the loss of velocity from the short barrel I would suggest using one of the faster burning powders like IMR3031. according to hodgdon data, a 150gr nosler Etip can be pushed 2850 FPS from a 24 inch barrel, likely this would drop to the 2600FPS range by the shorter barrel but that still leaves a decently effective cartridge. the gilded metal bullet will not explode on contact with a front quarter and will likely pass through.
however with all of this said. very few of my animals I've taken were pass through shots. pass through is not necessary to kill animals and unless it has guts dragging out of the exit wound, it's not going to leave a blood trail immediately on the spot, it has to pump blood out of the wound and that takes several seconds before it begins to drip. if a person has the devasting effects on entrance that the OP claims, that is the equivalent of a well designed bullet's exit wound and would likely have left similar trails. the fact that the animal died before it bled out enough to leave a trail is pointless. if you can't track that short of distance without a blood trail, then you probably aren't a very good tracker to begin with.
the resurrection artist needs to understand that there is a huge difference in the velocity of a standard length 308 or 30-06 and a 308 coming from a 16 inch barrel, especially if the powder is of a slower burn rate. I am not a fan of remington. I have had such terrible results with their hunting ammo I have completely sworn off them for that application. what I'm thinking is the case, here, is that the corelokts are behaving like varmint loads, instantly expanding and fragmenting and not holding enough weight to get proper penetration. one poster in this thread said something along the lines of "more than enough for tiny TX deer". well that right there should be an indicator that something is wrong if relatively close range shots on small deer still can't muster the oomph for a pass through wound.
the problem is likely a mixture of poor bullet construction and the short barrel hampering velocity. if I were going to handload for it, and I love to work up new loads. I would likely load up a strong load using a total copper bullet like a nosler Etip or barnes TTSX, upping the weight is not really necessary for "tiny tx whitetails". in order to negate the loss of velocity from the short barrel I would suggest using one of the faster burning powders like IMR3031. according to hodgdon data, a 150gr nosler Etip can be pushed 2850 FPS from a 24 inch barrel, likely this would drop to the 2600FPS range by the shorter barrel but that still leaves a decently effective cartridge. the gilded metal bullet will not explode on contact with a front quarter and will likely pass through.
however with all of this said. very few of my animals I've taken were pass through shots. pass through is not necessary to kill animals and unless it has guts dragging out of the exit wound, it's not going to leave a blood trail immediately on the spot, it has to pump blood out of the wound and that takes several seconds before it begins to drip. if a person has the devasting effects on entrance that the OP claims, that is the equivalent of a well designed bullet's exit wound and would likely have left similar trails. the fact that the animal died before it bled out enough to leave a trail is pointless. if you can't track that short of distance without a blood trail, then you probably aren't a very good tracker to begin with.