No Band Of Brothers for Kerry

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Yeah...

Dude screws up firing a thumper, and frags himself (flesh wound, according to the Doc that treated him)...Then PUTS HIMSELF IN FOR A PURPLE HEART...

Scumbag touted himself as this great war hero, and he got out of combat duty after only 90 days, and ended up being some admiral's Choagie Boy...

Being a 20 year vet/retiree, John Kerry makes me wanna hurl.

I'm glad, and America is better off that he, uh...


















LOST :D
 
Are you assuming that Kerry will run again?
Kerry already said he'd be running for president again. Even if he doesn't, he'll certainly run for another term in the senate. Besides being a widow-marrying golddigging liar with the most left-wing voting record in the senate (to the left of even Kennedy), he's a hard-core anti-RKBA bigot.
GWB lied about HIS military service
He did not lie, it's the liberal/left propaganda machine working in overdrive to perpetuate that foul slander. It's been well proven that he performed his duty with distinction:
http://www.hillnews.com/york/090904.aspx
They're both politicians who have skeletons they don't want anyone to see so they twist the facts.
Bush released his full military records. Kerry to this day has not. Who's the one hiding something here?
 
Kerry isn't the first elected official to run afoul of his "history" vs. the facts. After every conflict, people crawl out of the woodwork making claims about what they did. Kerry, being an officer, was allowed some latitude in his "awards", as most of the up-and-comers were punching their tickets in a War Zone. Adding a couple of "weakly described" awards was something that's been done since the Civil War.

Trying to make his awards a campaign point is another thing entirely. Especially after his disavowal of them, and his vaguely described witnessing of "American atrocities".

Swift Boats were larger than PBRs, didn't have jet-drive, and drew too much water to operate in many of the VN river's channels. The PBR had been deployed by the time J. Kerry was performing. Swift's spent most of their career intercepting Water-borne Logistics Vehicles in the larger waterways, and coastlines. They also operated at all times with at LEAST two boats.

I don't know John Kerry, but I do know about PBR ops. Also, in 1966-68, the majority of Navy operators were still carrying the M14 rifle. While there may have been some M16s on the Swifts, the majority still carried the 7.62 rifles. This was the period of time where the M16, and it's ammo, were a cause of serious concerns. The ability to appropriate ammo, mags, and parts would also have been of some concern to any Swift Boat operators.

It's been 36 years aince I left Vietnam, and my memory isn't as sharp for details as it used to be. You are willing to accept the memory of one man, who agreed with John Kerry, but doubt the memories of all the others? Talk about not wanting your idea cluttered up with facts.

What Mr. Kerry was, or wasn't, in the Vietnam War isn't as important as how he has used his experience. To me, his twisting of information to fit the current political winds, and his ability to ignore his past statements, is far more telling than some debate from the distant past. Swift Boat Vets for the Truth are no better or worse than any group of people reaching back that long ago to try to apply memories to today's PC statements.

My personal opinion of a man who would use his crew to "document" via film the scenario of his awards, for future use, isn't high. As was all too obvious to those who actually served, there were zero safe areas along the rivers. Kerry placed a crew in danger with his antics. That alone calls into doubt his intentions, his veracity, and his "command abilities".

Aside from some trolls here who love to stir up trouble, it's over for now. Rebar, you'll never get a straight answer.:)
 
George Bush Served with distintion????? LOL- his only site of action was at the bars and lounges in Birmingham, mostly while he was AWOL.:D
Spare me the fairy tails conjured up by his dads friends.
 
BIGJACK said:
George Bush Served with distintion????? LOL- his only site of action was at the bars and lounges in Birmingham, mostly while he was AWOL.

Objectively, one has to be reported missing for over 24 hours from assigned place of duty, and then they are considered AWOl only after said reprots are filed for UCMJ action.

There are no records of any of this, or UCLMJ proceedings, thus he could not hav ebeen AWOL.

If he was missing from said duty ("right place/right time/right uniform") his Commanders never reported it.

I agree with REBAR...It's the media's left wing BS machinery hard at work.

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GWBs pay records show that he missed being paid while he was in alabama, believe it was in '72, and he missed being paid because he did not fulfil his duties during that time. When I was in the service if you was not where you was supposed to be, when you was supposed to be there you was AWOL and went on report as such---unless of course your dad was a powerful politician.:eek:
 
So, are we to assume that the tens of thousands of draftees who served in Europe, Korea, and the United States during Vietnam did so without distinction?

As for Bush being AWOL, I don't suppose that there are any written records of that, right? After all, HIS records are available as a matter of public record. It was the "hero" who decided not to allow that, wasn't it?:)
 
His records show a break in his pay, done told you why.
Draftees and joinees served with distention in all of our wars. It is those who deliberately dodged the draft who are stained, regardless of how they went about it. Don;t matter if they went to canada, south america or had their dad get um a billet in the national guard(back when it was a heaven for the draft dodging rich and famous), all the same.
 
That's enough. This horse is well bloodied. :barf:

I'm closing this thread until the next election. If Kerry runs, I'll reopen it.
 
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