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Nikon scopes.
- Thread starter Polinese
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that if he moved his windage, his elevation adjustment would change as well and vice versa.
My guess is he did not have his scope perfectly level to his rifle . This will make you cant your rifle . I know this cus I had all my scopes canted and had to reinstall them with the http://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B004TAB7ZO/ref=oh_details_o00_s00_i00 And now they all track great and I shoot better .
Or he just canted his rifle when he shoots . This will also make your bullets track at an angle . I had/have that issue as well . I was shooting all my rifles to the right no matter what the rifle or sights . A quick Q & A on TFL here helped me out a great deal .
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Lloyd Smale
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ive got quite a few nikon scopes and think there great for the money but my starting point is the monarch line. The prostaffs and buckmasters never impressed me.
Capt Rick Hiott
New member
I own the ProStaff, the BuckMaster and just ordered another Nikon Force for my Taurus Raging Bull 454.......
I like them.
I like them.
Saltydog235
New member
I'd get that Ziess Conquest over any Nikon product out there. Those are great scopes for the money. You can also get a Weaver Super Slam for about the same cost and it is way more than the Nikon Glass ever thought of being. Look around, there are still a few Bushnell 4200's out there that blow the Nikon products away.
madcratebuilder
New member
I think ten years ago the Nikons had a good bang for the buck. Today, not so much, the Vipers, SWFA's, Alpen's and some of the Mueller models offer superior performance at the same price.
Nikon
Salty, You've made your personal message very clear. You don't like Nikon product's. Understood. You know I've tried to help you out in the past as well as do whatever I can to get information regarding Nikon product's to the guy's with question's. I certainly understand that not every scope is going to be for everyone. Forum's like this help us gather information to make an informed decision about how we want to spend our hard earned dollars. We ask question's hoping to receive relevant concise answers.
I say, take the pertinent information from this site and go someplace you can look down a few tubes, I understand a store isn't the optimal place to evaluate a scope, but at least you'll have a good idea of what the reticle looks like, eye relief and other scope features. Then, like buying a car, pick the scope that you feel will perform the best for your requirements.
As always, drop me a note if I can help provide you with any info on Nikon scopes.
http://i1216.photobucket.com/albums/dd363/bman940/RugernForce.jpg
Salty, You've made your personal message very clear. You don't like Nikon product's. Understood. You know I've tried to help you out in the past as well as do whatever I can to get information regarding Nikon product's to the guy's with question's. I certainly understand that not every scope is going to be for everyone. Forum's like this help us gather information to make an informed decision about how we want to spend our hard earned dollars. We ask question's hoping to receive relevant concise answers.
I say, take the pertinent information from this site and go someplace you can look down a few tubes, I understand a store isn't the optimal place to evaluate a scope, but at least you'll have a good idea of what the reticle looks like, eye relief and other scope features. Then, like buying a car, pick the scope that you feel will perform the best for your requirements.
As always, drop me a note if I can help provide you with any info on Nikon scopes.
http://i1216.photobucket.com/albums/dd363/bman940/RugernForce.jpg
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Saltydog235
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Bart, I offered my opinion on your products as well as others that I felt gave better performance for the same money. Nothing more, if you cannot take criticism from someone then you should consider a career change
Furthermore, if you insist on rehashing this and bringing it back in to a public forum, in June or July I issued a challenge that if you supplied me with a scope of my choosing and and it didn't break and worked in my hunting conditions during my normal application and hunting season I would A) Buy it at retail price and B) Publicly rescind any negative comments I had about Nikon. If it broke you would admit that Nikon made an inferior product to most other manufacturers. You declined the challenge and made excuses that Nikon wouldn't allow you to do that, which pretty much to me is an admission in and of itself.
I will continue to offer my opinion of Nikon's line whenever asked, just like the 10 others that have positive responses. As it stands IMHO Nikon Glass sucks. Want to change it, then take the Pepsi challenge.
Furthermore, if you insist on rehashing this and bringing it back in to a public forum, in June or July I issued a challenge that if you supplied me with a scope of my choosing and and it didn't break and worked in my hunting conditions during my normal application and hunting season I would A) Buy it at retail price and B) Publicly rescind any negative comments I had about Nikon. If it broke you would admit that Nikon made an inferior product to most other manufacturers. You declined the challenge and made excuses that Nikon wouldn't allow you to do that, which pretty much to me is an admission in and of itself.
I will continue to offer my opinion of Nikon's line whenever asked, just like the 10 others that have positive responses. As it stands IMHO Nikon Glass sucks. Want to change it, then take the Pepsi challenge.
IMHO
Not interested in a battle Salty. I was just trying to get you to not condemn an entire company because you had a bad experience. Period. As for the "Pepsi challenge", No one is going to give you a scope to do as you please and hope you like it. Would a car delaer let you have a 3 month test drive and then let you decide if you want to buy the rig, I don't think so. I'm a Ford guy and my neighbor Toyota. We all have choices in how we spend our $, just nice to get informative answer's so we can make solid decision's, plain and simple. I do my best to help guy's out when they ask question's about Nikon optic's. Just trying to help out.....
Not interested in a battle Salty. I was just trying to get you to not condemn an entire company because you had a bad experience. Period. As for the "Pepsi challenge", No one is going to give you a scope to do as you please and hope you like it. Would a car delaer let you have a 3 month test drive and then let you decide if you want to buy the rig, I don't think so. I'm a Ford guy and my neighbor Toyota. We all have choices in how we spend our $, just nice to get informative answer's so we can make solid decision's, plain and simple. I do my best to help guy's out when they ask question's about Nikon optic's. Just trying to help out.....
Saltydog235
New member
No skin off my back Bart, I'll spend my money elsewhere. As we both say, I had a bad experience 3X over.
BTW, you aren't giving me anything if it worked it would be paid for at Retail Price, if it didn't then you'd get it back in much the same physical condition it arrived in, only the internals, which is where I had issues would be broken. Maybe it could be put back out as Refurbished.
Oh and I've had a truck that I bought in '97 and was complete lemon, Chevy ended up giving me my money back. Had to fight for it but I got it back. And I do believe that there are a few companies that have offered a basic month or two test drive along the same lines as my challenge in order to prove the worth of the product they tout, Chevy did that one too I believe.
Again, I offer my opinion from MY experiences. I spend my money elsewhere, to each his/her own. I'm a careful consumer that finds the product with the best reputation and offering the features and construction to last at a decent value. Cars/Trucks: Ford and Toyota, Outboards & Boats: Yamaha & Pioneer, Fishing Reels: Avet and Shimano, Tires: Michelin and a lot of other examples. Its what is great about having the choices we do, if I don't like something based on a bad experience, someone else has another product to take its place.
BTW, you aren't giving me anything if it worked it would be paid for at Retail Price, if it didn't then you'd get it back in much the same physical condition it arrived in, only the internals, which is where I had issues would be broken. Maybe it could be put back out as Refurbished.
Oh and I've had a truck that I bought in '97 and was complete lemon, Chevy ended up giving me my money back. Had to fight for it but I got it back. And I do believe that there are a few companies that have offered a basic month or two test drive along the same lines as my challenge in order to prove the worth of the product they tout, Chevy did that one too I believe.
Again, I offer my opinion from MY experiences. I spend my money elsewhere, to each his/her own. I'm a careful consumer that finds the product with the best reputation and offering the features and construction to last at a decent value. Cars/Trucks: Ford and Toyota, Outboards & Boats: Yamaha & Pioneer, Fishing Reels: Avet and Shimano, Tires: Michelin and a lot of other examples. Its what is great about having the choices we do, if I don't like something based on a bad experience, someone else has another product to take its place.
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Jack O'Conner
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I've never owned a Nikkon scope but their binoculars are TOPS!
Jack
Jack
I've never owned a Nikkon scope but their binoculars are TOPS!
Amen to that!
I have a 35 year old Nikon 7X50 that is just as clear today as when I bought it. That was one of the reasons for buying Nikon scopes for some of my rifles. My spotting scope is also a Nikon.
I like both of my Nikons. I have a buckmaster 3-9X 40mm on a bolt rifle, and a Monarch African 1-4X 20mm on an AR-15.
I am completely satisfied with both.
Regarding Saltydog's "pepsi challenge"...
No manufacturer or distributor would ever agree to "...admit that they made an inferior product..." That is like asking a business to commit suicide. It's not realistic.
I am completely satisfied with both.
Regarding Saltydog's "pepsi challenge"...
I issued a challenge that if you supplied me with a scope of my choosing and and it didn't break and worked in my hunting conditions during my normal application and hunting season I would A) Buy it at retail price and B) Publicly rescind any negative comments I had about Nikon. If it broke you would admit that Nikon made an inferior product to most other manufacturers.
No manufacturer or distributor would ever agree to "...admit that they made an inferior product..." That is like asking a business to commit suicide. It's not realistic.
bman I just wanted to say thank you for your help and your products. I am temporarily rich from having major back surgery and the WC suit settled, I got a nice chunk of change, and I started buying some toys, including a Rem 700 .308 'tactical rifle'.
I could have had whatever scope I wanted, "WITHIN REASON", of course, and I chose Nikon Monarch and I am extremely happy with my decision.
*I COULD* have bought a Trijicon AccuPoint 5-20 if I really wanted, or even a Leupold Mark 4 , but I did not, I chose the Nikon Monarch,. And again, that has made me happy, and satisfied, which IMHO is all that matters.
I could have had whatever scope I wanted, "WITHIN REASON", of course, and I chose Nikon Monarch and I am extremely happy with my decision.
*I COULD* have bought a Trijicon AccuPoint 5-20 if I really wanted, or even a Leupold Mark 4 , but I did not, I chose the Nikon Monarch,. And again, that has made me happy, and satisfied, which IMHO is all that matters.
Saltydog235
New member
That would depend on whether or not you truly believed in what you made. They warranty those things out the door left a right, maybe there is some merit to my experiences from others out there.
Money where your mouth/claims are.
Money where your mouth/claims are.
Saltydog235
New member
Give us some feedback on it when you get a chance. I've heard excellent things about those optics but never had an opportunity to put my hands on one.