Nightstand gun with a sleep walker...help!

Just giving you some 1st hand advice here.....

"I don't know if this qualifies as an AD or an ND but many years back I touched off a 10mm Silvertip while asleep. Yep:eek: . I always kept a Glock 20 on my nightstand , condition 3. I went to sleep as usual and woke up with a "smoking gun" in my hand, ears ringing and a .40 cal sized hole in the wall. I guess you could call that a Nocturnal Discharge .....or maybe that's not the correct term either. Still scares me to this day though "


I quote myself from another thread there. That was a one time thing from 15 or so years ago and I'm NOT a sleepwalker and I am a very light sleeper. Scary stuff. I now only sleep with a pistol on the top shelf of the closet with the closet door closed. Also it's usually a 1911, cocked and locked on an empty chamber and in a Serpa holster. I figure I have to get up, open the closet, release the holster,flick the thumb safety and rack the slide before I'm good to go. I'm not sure how all that applies to your situation but I thought you might want to consider my experience before you decide what to do. Good luck
 
your sleeping disorder is caused by chemical imbalance
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Not necessarily.

Studies have also shown that frequent sleepwalking is associated with sleep deprivation, fever, stress and intake of drugs, especially sedatives, hypnotics, antipsychotics, stimulants and antihistamines.
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Look at something like a Gun Vault:
http://www.sportco.com/productcart/pc/viewContent.asp?idpage=28&gclid=CLWRprzfwZsCFRFWagodWXNZBA

Steer clear of the biometric ones - or search the archives, some guys have had issues with them.

On some of the standard models, however, you can set some reasonably complex codes - 2 and 3 digits pressed simultaneously, for multiple multi-finger combinations that will virtually require you to be awake and alert to activate them.

[Example: 2+3 together, 1+4 together, 3, 4+1+2 together]

No idea what causes your problems, etc., but something like a gun vault with a complex combination is likely safer than simply having a handgun laying on your bedside table......
 
Thanks for the responses guys.

Contrary to what it may seem like, I asked the question because I do take it seriously. My gun is currently up in the closet where it would be extremely difficult to get. While I don't like the idea that I won't have it, I prefer that to the alternative of not being 100% in control with a gun when I have a wife and kids in the house.

Just a thought, though. I was thinking about it, and you obviously want to be functioning at 100% before you take a loaded gun and possibly use it against any sort of threat. That is a given. Because of that, I can understand those that say I should not have a gun. I don't agree with it, but I understand what you are saying. On the same hand, though, how many of you have a beer when you get home from work, or with dinner? You could very easily argue that your judgments aren't 100% "there," but I don't see many people getting rid of a gun just because there is some alcohol in the house. Or what about sleep deprivation. Studies show it to have similar effects on judgement as alcohol, yet I am guessing there are a lot of tired people who still own guns.

I guess what I am getting at is that I don't think it is fair to say that I shouldn't have a gun at all, just because rarely I have had a problem with sleep walking. I think a better response is to put the gun in a place that can't easily be accessed while asleep, thus virtually ensuring that I am awake when I use it.

Anyway, thanks for the responses, I appreciate it.
 
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real simple,4 digit combo,fast enough,yet not likely to be sleepwalked opened
 
Locks and combinations may not be enough.

My girlfriends college roommate managed to climb down off her loft bed, open the combination firesafe where she keeps her car keys and money (because she took a drive to the store once) safety pin her keys to her panties (nobody knows why she did that) undo the safety chain on the dorm room door, open the door, and go down the hall to the vending machines where she bought a soda, and a snickers bar.

So if you're still wanting to keep a gun for defense, it might be smart, hell it is smart to go get some medical help first.
 
I don't think it is fair to say that I shouldn't have a gun at all, just because rarely I have had a problem with sleep walking.
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I am somewhat familiar with the treatment for sleep walking, and I am not interested.
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I think a better response is to put the gun in a place that can't easily be accessed while asleep, thus virtually ensuring that I am awake when I use it.
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I will make this simple. You have a wife and kids. DEAD IS FOREVER! It just takes one shot and your life will change forever.

Also, having a beer is not "losing control of your faculties". Anyone who drinks to the point where it does impair their judgement is just as wrong as you are. Two wrongs don't make a right! Using a firearm while intoxicated or under the influence is illegal. Having a firearm with a medical condition that allows you to do things in an unconscious state is, well... STUPID!

My gun is currently up in the closet where it would be extremely difficult to get. While I don't like the idea that I won't have it, I prefer that to the alternative of not being 100% in control with a gun when I have a wife and kids in the house.
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Hey, we are all about 2nd Amendment Rights on this board, but above that, SAFETY MUST be your #1 priority. If you are not going to be responsible with your gun ownership and be 100% in control 100% of the time, then I absolutely think you should not have one.

Scott
 
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This is not personal, but safety is #1...

but the other night I "came to" walking into the front room with the gun and a flashlight.
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What are you going to say when the judge asks you what you did for your "sleepwalking" before you "accidently" killed your wife and children?

That the guys on a Gun web-forum told you to put your gun under 50lbs of bricks inside a safe with the key hidden?????? I don't see that flying over well in court. In fact, I've never been subpoenaed to court because of my "expertise" on this gun forum.

You may want to get some advise from someone (doctor) that is going to be standing in court talking medication and treatment options, not burying the gun and doing nothing about it.

Don't get me wrong, I am TOTALLY for gun ownership, but if you are asking questions about the safety of this situation, I think it's time to put the guns in storage and fix the medical condition first. Once something happens, you CANNOT take it back... And that blood will not be on my hands.

Can someone please close this thread, as a medical professional should be consulted for any further advise.

No hard feelings, but safety is #1... (And that's not just my .02, that's the cold hard truth...):cool:
 
As if you havent been told enough....

Sleepwalking is serious. Get help. I had a close friend who I really looked up to who had a sleepwalking problem. He walked off a 3rd story balcony in his sleep and died friday Feb. 13 of this year. He had a pregnant wife.

Just one of the bad things that could come of this.

James
 
I want the name and phone# of the girl who safety pinned her keys to her panties, sounds like the most interesting date I would have in a long time.I was a sleepwalker till I was about ten, doctor said I outgrew it.Putting me on the top bunk of our bunk beds did not stop me, they still found me wandering around the neighborhood at 3:00AM
 
My daughter used to sleepwalk when she was a little kid. It was odd; in the middle of the night, she'd wander around with a vague expression on her face, not able to tell us what was going on in her head, or what she was doing up and wandering around.

Eventually I figured out that if I walked her to the bathroom and told her to use the toilet, she'd urinate and go back to sleep.

Reminds me of the Chinese fellow who had such a vivid dream of being a butterfly; when he awoke he wasn't sure if he was a man dreaming he was a butterfly, or a butterfly dreaming he was a man.

Trying to determine whether you're awake or asleep while you're holding a loaded firearm isn't a dream, it's a nightmare.

Get rid of the gun until you get rid of the sleepwalking. You're at more risk armed than unarmed at this time.
 
Is it safe to assume you sleep with your wife? Let her lock up the gun.

If something happens I'm sure she wouldn't mind waking you up and unlocking it for you.
 
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That is the only thing I have read on this thread that might work.

Its obvious that putting the guns in storage (which, no offense, I support until you seek treatment) isnt going to happen, so get something with a combo ONLY your wife knows.

Bottom line: you woke up sleep walking with a gun.

Be safe. And please dont do something you will regret. Im gonna go out on a limb here and guess that your family is more important than your guns. What if it was just your wife that made that noise you think you heard and you woke up to the realization that you shouldnt have had access to the gun....?

Just be safe. And please give the Lib's any more tragic front pages.
 
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